From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, chao.wei@sophgo.com,
evicetree@vger.kernel.org, emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com,
guoren@kernel.org, jszhang@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, palmer@dabbelt.com,
paul.walmsley@sifive.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
xiaoguang.xing@sophgo.com, Chen Wang <wangchen20@iscas.ac.cn>,
Atish Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:51:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920-992a56b66366f3c0591a6a94@fedora> (raw)
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:08:49PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 6:28 PM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:40:07PM +0800, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >On 20/09/2023 14:15, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >>> On 20/09/2023 08:39, Chen Wang wrote:
> > > >>>> From: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Add two new compatible string formatted like `C9xx-clint-xxx` to identify
> > > >>>> the timer and ipi device separately, and do not allow c900-clint as the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> If use the same compatible, SBI will process this twice in both ipi and
> > > >> timer, use different compatible will allow SBI to treat these as different.
> > > >> AFAIK, the aclint in SBI use the same concepts, which make hard to use the
> > > >> second register range. I have explained in another response.
> > > >
> > > >What is a SBI? Linux driver? If so, why some intermediate Linux driver
> > > >choice should affect bindings?
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Krzysztof
> > > >
> > >
> > > SBI (Supervisor Binary Interface) is defined by riscv, which is an interface
> > > between the Supervisor Execution Environment (SEE) and the supervisor. The
> > > detailed documentation can be found in [1].
> > >
> > > The implement of SBI needs fdt info of the platform, which is provided by
> > > kernel. So we need a dt-bindings for these devices, and these will be
> > > processed by SBI.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/riscv-non-isa/riscv-sbi-doc
> >
> > Yeah, this is the unfortunate problem of half-baked bindings (IMO)
> > ending up in OpenSBI (which likely means they also ended up in QEMU).
> > This T-Head stuff is coming across our (metaphorical) desks, so we are
> > obviously going to try to do things correctly. I may end up speaking to
> > Anup later today, if I do I will point him at this thread (if he hasn't
> > seen it already).
>
> RISC-V ACLINT is one of those unfortunate non-ISA specs (like
> SiFive PLIC) which is implemented by various organizations but
> not officially ratified by RVI.
Yeah, I brought this stuff up at the weekly pw sync call, and Paul
pointed that out.
> The SiFive CLINT has flexibility related limitations which makes it
> not useful for multi-socket and mult-die systems. The SiFive CLINT
> is also not useful for systems with AIA because with AIA M-mode has
> a new way of doing M-mode IPIs. Due to this reasons, the RISC-V
> ACLINT spec breaks down traditional SiFive CLINT into two separate
> devices namely mtimer and mswi. This allows platforms to implement
> only the required set of devices. The mtimer as defined by the ACLINT
> specifications also allows platforms to place mtime and mtimecmp
> registers at different locations.
>
> Refer, https://github.com/riscv/riscv-aclint/blob/main/riscv-aclint.adoc
>
> We need a separate DT bindings document for ACLINT MTIMER
> and ACLINT MSWI because these are separate devices. The
> Sophgo sg2042 SoC should add their implementation specific
> compatible strings in this document.
If the spec isn't frozen, I'm not accepting a binding for the "generic"
version of it. Bindings for this specific implemtnation are okay.
For sure though, squeezing this into the sifive,plic binding isn't
appropriate.
What was pointed out, I think by Samuel, that the reason that this may
need to be split is the fact that there are many possible MTIMER
register ranges & possibly sswi stuff too that would need to be
differentiated.
>
> Regards,
> Anup
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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, chao.wei@sophgo.com,
evicetree@vger.kernel.org, emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com,
guoren@kernel.org, jszhang@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, palmer@dabbelt.com,
paul.walmsley@sifive.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
xiaoguang.xing@sophgo.com, Chen Wang <wangchen20@iscas.ac.cn>,
Atish Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:51:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920-992a56b66366f3c0591a6a94@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK9=C2WWzc_M49-S+Gi509a6-gk3-89sAZn-ZCRhsQc4JwUpoQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:08:49PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 6:28 PM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:40:07PM +0800, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >On 20/09/2023 14:15, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >>> On 20/09/2023 08:39, Chen Wang wrote:
> > > >>>> From: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Add two new compatible string formatted like `C9xx-clint-xxx` to identify
> > > >>>> the timer and ipi device separately, and do not allow c900-clint as the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> If use the same compatible, SBI will process this twice in both ipi and
> > > >> timer, use different compatible will allow SBI to treat these as different.
> > > >> AFAIK, the aclint in SBI use the same concepts, which make hard to use the
> > > >> second register range. I have explained in another response.
> > > >
> > > >What is a SBI? Linux driver? If so, why some intermediate Linux driver
> > > >choice should affect bindings?
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Krzysztof
> > > >
> > >
> > > SBI (Supervisor Binary Interface) is defined by riscv, which is an interface
> > > between the Supervisor Execution Environment (SEE) and the supervisor. The
> > > detailed documentation can be found in [1].
> > >
> > > The implement of SBI needs fdt info of the platform, which is provided by
> > > kernel. So we need a dt-bindings for these devices, and these will be
> > > processed by SBI.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/riscv-non-isa/riscv-sbi-doc
> >
> > Yeah, this is the unfortunate problem of half-baked bindings (IMO)
> > ending up in OpenSBI (which likely means they also ended up in QEMU).
> > This T-Head stuff is coming across our (metaphorical) desks, so we are
> > obviously going to try to do things correctly. I may end up speaking to
> > Anup later today, if I do I will point him at this thread (if he hasn't
> > seen it already).
>
> RISC-V ACLINT is one of those unfortunate non-ISA specs (like
> SiFive PLIC) which is implemented by various organizations but
> not officially ratified by RVI.
Yeah, I brought this stuff up at the weekly pw sync call, and Paul
pointed that out.
> The SiFive CLINT has flexibility related limitations which makes it
> not useful for multi-socket and mult-die systems. The SiFive CLINT
> is also not useful for systems with AIA because with AIA M-mode has
> a new way of doing M-mode IPIs. Due to this reasons, the RISC-V
> ACLINT spec breaks down traditional SiFive CLINT into two separate
> devices namely mtimer and mswi. This allows platforms to implement
> only the required set of devices. The mtimer as defined by the ACLINT
> specifications also allows platforms to place mtime and mtimecmp
> registers at different locations.
>
> Refer, https://github.com/riscv/riscv-aclint/blob/main/riscv-aclint.adoc
>
> We need a separate DT bindings document for ACLINT MTIMER
> and ACLINT MSWI because these are separate devices. The
> Sophgo sg2042 SoC should add their implementation specific
> compatible strings in this document.
If the spec isn't frozen, I'm not accepting a binding for the "generic"
version of it. Bindings for this specific implemtnation are okay.
For sure though, squeezing this into the sifive,plic binding isn't
appropriate.
What was pointed out, I think by Samuel, that the reason that this may
need to be split is the fact that there are many possible MTIMER
register ranges & possibly sswi stuff too that would need to be
differentiated.
>
> Regards,
> Anup
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2023-09-20 6:33 [PATCH v2 00/11] Add Milk-V Pioneer RISC-V board support Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:33 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] riscv: Add SOPHGO SOC family Kconfig support Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:34 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:34 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:34 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:21 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:21 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: add milkv/sophgo Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:37 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:38 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:38 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:22 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:22 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 9:14 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 9:14 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:37 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] dt-bindings: riscv: add sophgo sg2042 bindings Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:37 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:43 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:43 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:28 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:28 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 10:21 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 10:21 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 12:18 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 12:18 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 13:40 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 13:40 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 13:51 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 13:51 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 14:00 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 14:00 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 1:48 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 1:48 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 11:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 11:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:03 ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 12:03 ` 汪辰
2023-09-21 0:48 ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-09-21 0:48 ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-09-20 6:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] dt-bindings: riscv: Add T-HEAD C920 compatibles Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:38 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:44 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:44 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:37 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:37 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add SOPHGO's SG2042 PLIC Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:39 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:45 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:45 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:57 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:57 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:39 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:12 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:12 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:50 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:50 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 9:08 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 9:08 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 9:53 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 9:53 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:24 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 11:24 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 13:03 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 13:03 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 0:43 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 0:43 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 8:05 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 8:05 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 8:18 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 8:18 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 8:52 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 8:52 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 9:44 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 9:44 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 11:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 11:57 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:15 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:15 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:40 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:40 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:58 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 12:58 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 13:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 13:09 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 14:38 ` Anup Patel
2023-09-20 14:38 ` Anup Patel
2023-09-20 14:51 ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-09-20 14:51 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 22:20 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 22:20 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22 5:16 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22 5:16 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22 7:43 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 7:43 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 8:18 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22 8:18 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 6:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] dt-bindings: serial: snps-dw-apb-uart: Add Sophgo SG2042 uarts Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:39 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:51 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:51 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:37 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:37 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 6:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] serial: 8250_dw: Add Sophgo SG2042 support Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:40 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 7:53 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 7:53 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:05 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:05 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:08 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:08 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-22 9:41 ` Ben Dooks
2023-09-22 9:41 ` Ben Dooks
2023-09-22 10:40 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-22 10:40 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-22 11:39 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 11:39 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-26 7:38 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-26 7:38 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] riscv: dts: add initial SOPHGO SG2042 SoC device tree Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:40 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:04 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:04 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:57 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:57 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 9:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 9:07 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21 9:56 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] riscv: dts: add initial SOPHGO SG2042 SoC device tree Chen Wang
2023-09-21 9:56 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 10:15 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 10:15 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 10:27 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 10:27 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 12:06 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 12:06 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:32 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 11:32 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 12:09 ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 12:09 ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 12:32 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 12:32 ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 12:37 ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 12:37 ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 15:19 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-20 15:19 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-20 15:31 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 15:31 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 6:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] riscv: dts: sophgo: add Milk-V Pioneer board " Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:40 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:05 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:05 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:16 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:16 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 11:59 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 6:41 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] riscv: defconfig: enable SOPHGO SoC Chen Wang
2023-09-20 6:41 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 8:06 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:06 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20 8:58 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 8:58 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Add Milk-V Pioneer RISC-V board support Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 10:01 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 10:24 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 10:24 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 10:50 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 10:50 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 11:28 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 11:28 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 15:22 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-20 15:22 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-26 10:29 ` Chen Wang
2023-09-26 10:29 ` Chen Wang
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