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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Borislav Petkov (AMD)" <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] uprobe: Add uretprobe syscall to speed up return probe
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2024 19:55:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240406175558.GC3060@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240406120536.57374198f3f45e809d7e4efa@kernel.org>

On 04/06, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:02:30 +0200
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> > With or without this patch userpace can also do
> >
> > 	foo() { <-- retprobe1
> > 		bar() {
> > 			jump to xol_area
> > 		}
> > 	}
> >
> > handle_trampoline() will handle retprobe1.
>
> This is OK because the execution path has been changed to trampoline,

Agreed, in this case the misuse is more clear. But please see below.

> but the above will continue running bar() after sys_uretprobe().

... and most probably crash

> > sigreturn() can be "improved" too. Say, it could validate sigcontext->ip
> > and return -EINVAL if this addr is not valid. But why?
>
> Because sigreturn() never returns, but sys_uretprobe() will return.

You mean, sys_uretprobe() returns to the next insn after syscall.

Almost certainly yes, but this is not necessarily true. If one of consumers
changes regs->sp sys_uretprobe() "returns" to another location, just like
sys_rt_sigreturn().

That said.

Masami, it is not that I am trying to prove that you are "wrong" ;) No.

I see your points even if I am biased, I understand that my objections are
not 100% "fair".

I am just trying to explain why, rightly or not, I care much less about the
abuse of sys_uretprobe().

Thanks!

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-06 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-02  9:32 [PATCHv2 0/3] uprobe: uretprobe speed up Jiri Olsa
2024-04-02  9:33 ` [PATCHv2 1/3] uprobe: Add uretprobe syscall to speed up return probe Jiri Olsa
2024-04-03  1:07   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-03  9:47     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-03 13:56       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-03 14:09       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-03 14:49         ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-03 16:58         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-04-04  0:58           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-04  2:00             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-04-04 11:58               ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-04 16:06                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-04 15:54               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-04 16:11                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-05  1:22                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-05  8:56                     ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-05 11:02                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-06  3:05                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-06 17:55                           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2024-04-08  3:54                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-08 16:02                         ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-08 16:22                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-04-09 12:06                             ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-09  0:34                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-09  7:57                             ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-08  3:16                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2024-04-15  8:25   ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-18 18:34     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-04-02  9:33 ` [PATCHv2 bpf-next 2/3] selftests/bpf: Add uretprobe test for regs integrity Jiri Olsa
2024-04-02  9:33 ` [PATCHv2 bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add uretprobe test for regs changes Jiri Olsa

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