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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Anuj gupta <anuj1072538@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	Kundan Kumar <kundan.kumar@samsung.com>,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, chao@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] Parallelizing filesystem writeback
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 16:04:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250603140445.GA14351@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACzX3AuBVsdEUy09W+L+xRAGLsUD0S9+J2AO8nSguA2nX5d8GQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 07:22:18PM +0530, Anuj gupta wrote:
> > A mount option is about the worst possible interface for behavior
> > that depends on file system implementation and possibly hardware
> > chacteristics.  This needs to be set by the file systems, possibly
> > using generic helpers using hardware information.
> 
> Right, that makes sense. Instead of using a mount option, we can
> introduce generic helpers to initialize multiple writeback contexts
> based on underlying hardware characteristics — e.g., number of CPUs or
> NUMA topology. Filesystems like XFS and EXT4 can then call these helpers
> during mount to opt into parallel writeback in a controlled way.

Yes.  A mount option might still be useful to override this default,
but it should not be needed for the normal use case.


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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Anuj gupta <anuj1072538@gmail.com>
Cc: ritesh.list@gmail.com, jack@suse.cz, djwong@kernel.org,
	amir73il@gmail.com, david@fromorbit.com, gfs2@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, clm@meta.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	dave@stgolabs.net, agruenba@redhat.com, miklos@szeredi.hu,
	Kundan Kumar <kundan.kumar@samsung.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, p.raghav@samsung.com,
	Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta <anuj20.g@samsung.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, da.gomez@samsung.com,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, kundanthebest@gmail.com,
	jaegeuk@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, brauner@kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	anna@kernel.org, gost.dev@samsung.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	trondmy@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 00/13] Parallelizing filesystem writeback
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 16:04:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250603140445.GA14351@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACzX3AuBVsdEUy09W+L+xRAGLsUD0S9+J2AO8nSguA2nX5d8GQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 03, 2025 at 07:22:18PM +0530, Anuj gupta wrote:
> > A mount option is about the worst possible interface for behavior
> > that depends on file system implementation and possibly hardware
> > chacteristics.  This needs to be set by the file systems, possibly
> > using generic helpers using hardware information.
> 
> Right, that makes sense. Instead of using a mount option, we can
> introduce generic helpers to initialize multiple writeback contexts
> based on underlying hardware characteristics — e.g., number of CPUs or
> NUMA topology. Filesystems like XFS and EXT4 can then call these helpers
> during mount to opt into parallel writeback in a controlled way.

Yes.  A mount option might still be useful to override this default,
but it should not be needed for the normal use case.



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  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-03 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20250529113215epcas5p2edd67e7b129621f386be005fdba53378@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2025-05-29 11:14 ` [PATCH 00/13] Parallelizing filesystem writeback Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: add infra for parallel writeback Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: add support to initialize and free multiple writeback ctxs Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: link bdi_writeback to its corresponding bdi_writeback_ctx Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: affine inode to a writeback ctx within a bdi Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-02 14:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 14:24       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: modify bdi_writeback search logic to search across all wb ctxs Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: invoke all writeback contexts for flusher and dirtytime writeback Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: modify sync related functions to iterate over all writeback contexts Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14   ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: add support to collect stats for all writeback ctxs Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15   ` [PATCH 09/13] f2fs: add support in f2fs to handle multiple writeback contexts Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-02 14:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 14:20       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29 11:15   ` [PATCH 10/13] fuse: add support for multiple writeback contexts in fuse Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-02 14:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 14:21       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 15:50       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-06-02 15:50         ` [f2fs-dev] " Bernd Schubert
2025-06-02 15:55         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 15:55           ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29 11:15   ` [PATCH 11/13] gfs2: add support in gfs2 to handle multiple writeback contexts Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15   ` [PATCH 12/13] nfs: add support in nfs " Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-02 14:22     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 14:22       ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-05-29 11:15   ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: set the num of writeback contexts to number of online cpus Kundan Kumar
2025-05-29 11:15     ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-03 14:36     ` kernel test robot
2025-06-03 14:36       ` [f2fs-dev] " kernel test robot
2025-05-30  3:37   ` [PATCH 00/13] Parallelizing filesystem writeback Andrew Morton
2025-05-30  3:37     ` [f2fs-dev] " Andrew Morton
2025-06-25 15:44     ` Kundan Kumar
2025-06-25 15:44       ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-07-02 18:43       ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 18:43         ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-07-03 13:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-03 13:05           ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-04  7:02           ` Kundan Kumar
2025-07-04  7:02             ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-07-07 14:28             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-07 14:28               ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-07-07 15:47           ` Jan Kara
2025-07-07 15:47             ` [f2fs-dev] " Jan Kara
2025-06-02 14:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-02 14:19     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03  9:16     ` Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2025-06-03  9:16       ` [f2fs-dev] " Anuj Gupta/Anuj Gupta
2025-06-03 13:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 13:24         ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 13:52         ` Anuj gupta
2025-06-03 13:52           ` [f2fs-dev] " Anuj gupta
2025-06-03 14:04           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2025-06-03 14:04             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:05             ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-03 14:05               ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-06  5:04               ` Kundan Kumar
2025-06-06  5:04                 ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-09  4:00                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-09  4:00                   ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2025-06-04  9:22           ` Kundan Kumar
2025-06-04  9:22             ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-06-11 15:51             ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-06-11 15:51               ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel
2025-06-24  5:59               ` Kundan Kumar
2025-06-24  5:59                 ` [f2fs-dev] " Kundan Kumar
2025-07-02 18:44                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-07-02 18:44                   ` [f2fs-dev] " Darrick J. Wong via Linux-f2fs-devel

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