From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Nitka, Grzegorz" <grzegorz.nitka@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 0/8] dpll/ice: Add TXC DPLL type and full TX reference clock control for E825
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 18:10:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260409181041.395a0c37@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA1PR11MB621925C1718B838147404DC492582@IA1PR11MB6219.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 11:21:35 +0000 Nitka, Grzegorz wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:06:18 +0200 Grzegorz Nitka wrote:
> > > This series adds TX reference clock support for E825 devices and exposes
> > > TX clock selection and synchronization status via the Linux DPLL
> > > subsystem.
> > > E825 hardware contains a dedicated Tx clock (TXC) domain that is
> > > distinct
> > > from PPS and EEC. TX reference clock selection is device‑wide, shared
> > > across ports, and mediated by firmware as part of the link bring‑up
> > > process. As a result, TX clock selection intent may differ from the
> > > effective hardware configuration, and software must verify the outcome
> > > after link‑up.
> > > To support this, the series introduces TXC support incrementally across
> > > the DPLL core and the ice driver:
> > >
> > > - add a new DPLL type (TXC) to represent transmit clock generators;
> >
> > I'm not grasping why this is needed, isn't it part of any EEC system
> > that the DPLL can drive the TXC? Is your system going to expose multiple
> > DPLLs now for one NIC?
>
> Hello Jakub,
> For E825 device, the short answer is yes. We have platform EEC now and
> we want to add:
> - TXC DPLLs per port, and
> - PPS DPLL for TSPLL config purposes (in the near future)
>
> EEC (Ethernet Equipment Clock) type DPLL is designed to control multiple
> source signals (internal-NIC or external), where one drives the dpll device,
> where multiple outputs are possible, each could drive various components
> as well as propagate signal to external devices.
> TXC is specific dpll device that associated with single ETH port to control it's source,
> there is no need to declare any outputs as the single output is already determined.
> Basically, having TXC DPLL indicates per port control over SyncE (or some external)
> clock source.
Could you share a diagram of how things are wired up?
DPLL can have multiple outputs and multiple inputs. I'm not getting why
a single device would have to have multiple actual DPLLs (which makes
me worried this is just some "convenient use of the uAPI")
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Nitka, Grzegorz" <grzegorz.nitka@intel.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org"
<intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
"Oros, Petr" <poros@redhat.com>,
"richardcochran@gmail.com" <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
"andrew+netdev@lunn.ch" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"Kitszel, Przemyslaw" <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
"Nguyen, Anthony L" <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
"Prathosh.Satish@microchip.com" <Prathosh.Satish@microchip.com>,
"Vecera, Ivan" <ivecera@redhat.com>,
"jiri@resnulli.us" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
"Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 net-next 0/8] dpll/ice: Add TXC DPLL type and full TX reference clock control for E825
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2026 18:10:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260409181041.395a0c37@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <IA1PR11MB621925C1718B838147404DC492582@IA1PR11MB6219.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, 9 Apr 2026 11:21:35 +0000 Nitka, Grzegorz wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 01:06:18 +0200 Grzegorz Nitka wrote:
> > > This series adds TX reference clock support for E825 devices and exposes
> > > TX clock selection and synchronization status via the Linux DPLL
> > > subsystem.
> > > E825 hardware contains a dedicated Tx clock (TXC) domain that is
> > > distinct
> > > from PPS and EEC. TX reference clock selection is device‑wide, shared
> > > across ports, and mediated by firmware as part of the link bring‑up
> > > process. As a result, TX clock selection intent may differ from the
> > > effective hardware configuration, and software must verify the outcome
> > > after link‑up.
> > > To support this, the series introduces TXC support incrementally across
> > > the DPLL core and the ice driver:
> > >
> > > - add a new DPLL type (TXC) to represent transmit clock generators;
> >
> > I'm not grasping why this is needed, isn't it part of any EEC system
> > that the DPLL can drive the TXC? Is your system going to expose multiple
> > DPLLs now for one NIC?
>
> Hello Jakub,
> For E825 device, the short answer is yes. We have platform EEC now and
> we want to add:
> - TXC DPLLs per port, and
> - PPS DPLL for TSPLL config purposes (in the near future)
>
> EEC (Ethernet Equipment Clock) type DPLL is designed to control multiple
> source signals (internal-NIC or external), where one drives the dpll device,
> where multiple outputs are possible, each could drive various components
> as well as propagate signal to external devices.
> TXC is specific dpll device that associated with single ETH port to control it's source,
> there is no need to declare any outputs as the single output is already determined.
> Basically, having TXC DPLL indicates per port control over SyncE (or some external)
> clock source.
Could you share a diagram of how things are wired up?
DPLL can have multiple outputs and multiple inputs. I'm not getting why
a single device would have to have multiple actual DPLLs (which makes
me worried this is just some "convenient use of the uAPI")
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-10 1:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-02 23:06 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 0/8] dpll/ice: Add TXC DPLL type and full TX reference clock control for E825 Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 1/8] dpll: add new DPLL type for transmit clock (TXC) usage Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 2/8] dpll: allow registering FW-identified pin with a different DPLL Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 3/8] dpll: extend pin notifier and netlink events with notification source ID Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-03 11:53 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jiri Pirko
2026-04-03 11:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 4/8] dpll: zl3073x: allow SyncE_Ref pin state change Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-08 9:44 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Ivan Vecera
2026-04-08 9:44 ` Ivan Vecera
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 5/8] ice: introduce TXC DPLL device and TX ref clock pin framework for E825 Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 6/8] ice: implement CPI support for E825C Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 7/8] ice: add Tx reference clock index handling to AN restart command Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 8/8] ice: implement E825 TX ref clock control and TXC hardware sync status Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-02 23:06 ` Grzegorz Nitka
2026-04-07 2:23 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH v5 net-next 0/8] dpll/ice: Add TXC DPLL type and full TX reference clock control for E825 Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-07 2:23 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-09 11:21 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-09 11:21 ` Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-10 1:10 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2026-04-10 1:10 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 14:23 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-10 14:23 ` Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-10 20:38 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-10 20:38 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-12 13:50 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-12 13:50 ` Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-12 14:50 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-12 14:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-13 8:19 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-13 8:19 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-13 17:40 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-13 17:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-14 21:58 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-14 21:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-15 13:23 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-15 13:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-16 15:27 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-16 15:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-16 18:26 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-16 18:26 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-17 1:04 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-17 12:22 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-17 12:22 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-18 19:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-04-20 14:52 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-20 14:52 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2026-04-30 9:53 ` Nitka, Grzegorz
2026-04-30 9:53 ` Nitka, Grzegorz
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