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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 13/18] mm: Drop fake head checks
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 09:06:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261028080635.GD2668804@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cb3dd91-f518-49b6-b311-9ec807b3c63b@linux.dev>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 10:38:22AM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2026/10/28 01:51, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 10:03:54PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> > > Therefore, I am kind of leaning towards removing the RO protection
> > > and restoring RW permissions to solve the race.
> > Okay, what about this:
> > 
> >  From e23ab850837b53cc79d57d58f1cfb4266e745c3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 17:23:47 +0000
> > Subject: [PATCH] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: map the shared tail page writable
> > 
> > page_ref_add_unless_zero() reads the refcount and then updates it with
> > a cmpxchg.  A lockless get, such as a page cache lookup or a PFN
> > scanner, can read a non-zero refcount from a page that is then freed
> > and reused as a hugetlb tail page.  If HVO remaps its struct page to
> > the shared tail page in between, the cmpxchg writes to read-only
> > vmemmap:
> > 
> >      CPU0 (lockless get)               CPU1
> >      c = atomic_read(&page->_refcount)
> >                                        page freed
> >                                        page allocated as a hugetlb tail
> >                                        HVO remaps the struct page RO
> >      try_cmpxchg(&page->_refcount, &c, c + 1)
> >        -> write fault on read-only vmemmap
> > 
> > The refcount is zero by then and the compare fails, but LOCK CMPXCHG on
> > x86 writes anyway.  The kernel oopses when hugetlb pages are allocated
> 
> Is this an X86-specific issue? If not, I suggest a more generic
> description.

AFAICT most architectures that implement single compare-and-swap
instructions are affected, with the possible exception of s390.

That is, sparc, arm64-lse, riscv-Zacas, loonarch-amocas, openrisc (and
ia64 for those people keeping the out-of-tree port alive) all require
write protection to begin cmpxchg.

All the LL/SC architectures should be fine, they'll never get to the SC
part.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Cc: Kiryl Shutsemau <kas@kernel.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>,
	Frank van der Linden <fvdl@google.com>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Alexandre Ghiti <alex@ghiti.fr>,
	kernel-team@meta.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	loongarch@lists.linux.dev, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 13/18] mm: Drop fake head checks
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 09:06:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261028080635.GD2668804@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cb3dd91-f518-49b6-b311-9ec807b3c63b@linux.dev>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 10:38:22AM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2026/10/28 01:51, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2026 at 10:03:54PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
> > > Therefore, I am kind of leaning towards removing the RO protection
> > > and restoring RW permissions to solve the race.
> > Okay, what about this:
> > 
> >  From e23ab850837b53cc79d57d58f1cfb4266e745c3d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: "Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)" <kas@kernel.org>
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2026 17:23:47 +0000
> > Subject: [PATCH] mm/hugetlb_vmemmap: map the shared tail page writable
> > 
> > page_ref_add_unless_zero() reads the refcount and then updates it with
> > a cmpxchg.  A lockless get, such as a page cache lookup or a PFN
> > scanner, can read a non-zero refcount from a page that is then freed
> > and reused as a hugetlb tail page.  If HVO remaps its struct page to
> > the shared tail page in between, the cmpxchg writes to read-only
> > vmemmap:
> > 
> >      CPU0 (lockless get)               CPU1
> >      c = atomic_read(&page->_refcount)
> >                                        page freed
> >                                        page allocated as a hugetlb tail
> >                                        HVO remaps the struct page RO
> >      try_cmpxchg(&page->_refcount, &c, c + 1)
> >        -> write fault on read-only vmemmap
> > 
> > The refcount is zero by then and the compare fails, but LOCK CMPXCHG on
> > x86 writes anyway.  The kernel oopses when hugetlb pages are allocated
> 
> Is this an X86-specific issue? If not, I suggest a more generic
> description.

AFAICT most architectures that implement single compare-and-swap
instructions are affected, with the possible exception of s390.

That is, sparc, arm64-lse, riscv-Zacas, loonarch-amocas, openrisc (and
ia64 for those people keeping the out-of-tree port alive) all require
write protection to begin cmpxchg.

All the LL/SC architectures should be fine, they'll never get to the SC
part.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-28  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-27 19:42 [PATCHv7 RESEND 00/17] mm: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 01/18] mm: Move MAX_FOLIO_ORDER definition to mmzone.h Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 02/18] mm: Change the interface of prep_compound_tail() Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 03/18] mm: Rename the 'compound_head' field in the 'struct page' to 'compound_info' Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 04/18] mm: Move set/clear_compound_head() next to compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 05/18] riscv/mm: Align vmemmap to maximal folio size Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-16 16:30   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 16:30     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 06/18] LoongArch/mm: " Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-16 16:31   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 16:31     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 07/18] mm: Rework compound_head() for power-of-2 sizeof(struct page) Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 08/18] mm/sparse: Check memmap alignment for compound_info_has_mask() Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-16 16:33   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 16:33     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 09/18] mm/hugetlb: Defer vmemmap population for bootmem hugepages Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-16 16:48   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 16:48     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 11:28     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 11:28       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-03-17 12:47       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 12:47         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 10/18] mm/hugetlb: Refactor code around vmemmap_walk Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 11/18] x86/vdso: Undefine CONFIG_HUGETLB_PAGE_OPTIMIZE_VMEMMAP for vdso32 Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-16 16:49   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 16:49     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 12/18] mm/hugetlb: Remove fake head pages Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-05 10:39   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-05 10:39     ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-03-16 17:01   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-16 17:01     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-03-17 11:47   ` [PATCHv7.1 " Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-17 11:47     ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 13/18] mm: Drop fake head checks Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-10-26 17:45   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 17:45     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:25     ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-26 23:25       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-26 23:37       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-26 23:37         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 11:00         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 11:00           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:00           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:00             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:05             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 12:05               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 12:31               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:31                 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:47                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:47                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:49                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:58                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 12:58                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 13:13                 ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 13:13                   ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 13:35                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 13:35                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 14:03                     ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 14:03                       ` Muchun Song
2026-10-27 17:51                       ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 17:51                         ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 20:16                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-27 20:16                           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-28  2:38                         ` Muchun Song
2026-10-28  2:38                           ` Muchun Song
2026-10-28  8:06                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-10-28  8:06                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-28 12:58                             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 12:58                               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 13:34                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-28 13:34                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-28 14:16                                 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 14:16                                   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 13:04                           ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-28 13:04                             ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:13               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:22               ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:22                 ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-10-27 12:29                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-27 12:29                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 14/18] hugetlb: Remove VMEMMAP_SYNCHRONIZE_RCU Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 15/18] mm/hugetlb: Remove hugetlb_optimize_vmemmap_key static key Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 16/18] mm: Remove the branch from compound_head() Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 17/18] hugetlb: Update vmemmap_dedup.rst Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 21:08   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-02-27 21:08     ` Randy Dunlap
2026-03-02  3:10   ` Muchun Song
2026-03-02  3:10     ` Muchun Song
2026-03-02 10:56   ` [PATCHv7.1 " Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-03-02 10:56     ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-04-30  3:25     ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2026-04-30  3:25       ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2026-02-27 19:42 ` [PATCHv7 18/18] mm/slab: Use compound_head() in page_slab() Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:42   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-28 23:01 ` [PATCHv7 RESEND 00/17] mm: Eliminate fake head pages from vmemmap optimization Andrew Morton
2026-02-28 23:01   ` Andrew Morton
2026-04-30  3:25 ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2026-04-30  3:25   ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-02-02 15:56 [PATCHv6 " Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-02-27 19:30 ` [PATCHv7 13/18] mm: Drop fake head checks Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-02-27 19:30   ` Kiryl Shutsemau (Meta)
2026-04-30  3:25   ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv
2026-04-30  3:25     ` patchwork-bot+linux-riscv

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