From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
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iommu@lists.linux.dev, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/17] net: phy: Attach generic PHY drivers through the driver core
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 20:35:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261105183510.GE8298@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9866a873-e71d-48cd-9153-be1bfce51eda@lunn.ch>
On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 03:50:35PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 01:42:16PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> >
> > The generic PHY fallback probes directly before publishing its binding,
> > bypassing driver-core admission and supplier checks.
> >
> > Attach through the driver core so admission precedes functional setup.
> > Callers hold RTNL, which a concurrent bind of a specific driver may wait
> > for with the device lock held, so for this flow let's add
> > device_driver_try_attach() so the attachment never waits for that lock.
>
> FYI: This code is fragile, and causes issues. I will need to stare
> long and hard at it before accepting it. So i'm unlikely to do that
> until the basic idea is accepted.
In order to accept basic idea, we need to change PHY code hold device
lock when binding the driver.
>
> I also wounder how a PHY is a threat. What is your threat model for an
> Ethernet PHY?
There is no special threat model for X or Y. Everything that requires
drivers to be bound are expected behave the same - honor trust level
policy.
Thanks
>
> Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-05 18:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 11:42 [PATCH 00/17] driver core: Authorize device trust before driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 01/17] Input: gameport - attach manual drivers through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:05 ` driver core: Authorize device trust before driver binding bluez.test.bot
2026-11-06 11:43 ` [PATCH 01/17] Input: gameport - attach manual drivers through the driver core sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 02/17] Input: serio " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-11-05 19:19 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 20:34 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-11-06 14:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 03/17] net: phy: Attach generic PHY " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 14:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 18:35 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2026-11-05 15:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 18:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 04/17] wifi: mac80211_hwsim: lock device for manual driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 05/17] USB: Lock registered interfaces during " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:24 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-05 18:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-08 11:09 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-08 16:59 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-09 9:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 06/17] PNP: Attach card devices through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 07/17] cdx: Propagate DMA configuration errors Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 08/17] driver core: Allow userspace to detect EPROBE_DEFER when using sysfs drivers_probe Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 09/17] driver core: Introduce a generic device trust level Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 10/17] driver core: Expose device trust authorization through sysfs Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:27 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:59 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 14:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:17 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 14:26 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 15:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 14:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 15:09 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 13:42 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 17:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 19:06 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 11/17] driver core: Accept device trust policy on the kernel command line Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 12/17] driver core: Accept device trust policy by driver name Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 13/17] driver core: Preserve trust commitment beyond driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 14/17] driver core: Add a global initial device trust policy Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 15/17] driver core: Cover trust authorization and binding with KUnit Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 16/17] driver core: Document trust admission and initrd authorization Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 17/17] PCI: Replace untrusted state with device trust Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 15:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 18:26 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
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