From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
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iommu@lists.linux.dev, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/17] USB: Lock registered interfaces during manual driver binding
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2026 13:09:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261108110909.GA8635@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf756e50-c77e-40f2-916d-e88887426806@rowland.harvard.edu>
On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 03:04:18PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 08:44:42PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 12:24:33PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2026 at 01:42:18PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > From: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> > > >
> > > > Interface claims hold the USB device lock, but device_bind_driver()
> > > > requires the target interface lock. Without it, trust-policy writes can
> > > > race admission.
> > >
> > > This says nothing about usb_driver_release_refused_claim() and the code
> > > related to it. It is an incomplete description of the patch.
> > >
> > > Note that nothing prevents drivers from using an interface they claim
> > > before that interface is registered. For your scheme to work properly,
> > > you should make sure the claim is authorized when
> > > usb_driver_claim_interface() is called, not when the interface is
> > > registered.
> >
> > This patch is unrelated to authorization;
>
> I meant "authorization" in its generic sense. When you don't trust
> something, you don't authorize it to do anything. Pretend I had written
> "the interface being claimed is trusted" in place of "the claim is
> authorized" above.
I will combine existing USB authorization scheme with device trust in v2.
>
> > it ensures that the lock is
> > acquired when the driver is bound.
>
> That may have been your intention when the patch was created, but if you
> read the patch you'll see that it includes a whole bunch of material
> not related to locking during binding. Namely, this part:
Once I added `device_lock()` to `bind`, I had to add it to `unbind` as well.
Thanks
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-08 11:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-05 11:42 [PATCH 00/17] driver core: Authorize device trust before driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 01/17] Input: gameport - attach manual drivers through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:05 ` driver core: Authorize device trust before driver binding bluez.test.bot
2026-11-06 11:43 ` [PATCH 01/17] Input: gameport - attach manual drivers through the driver core sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 02/17] Input: serio " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:05 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-11-05 19:19 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 20:34 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-11-06 14:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 03/17] net: phy: Attach generic PHY " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 14:50 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 18:35 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 15:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 18:45 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 04/17] wifi: mac80211_hwsim: lock device for manual driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 05/17] USB: Lock registered interfaces during " Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 17:24 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-05 18:44 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 20:04 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-08 11:09 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2026-11-08 16:59 ` Alan Stern
2026-11-09 9:23 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 06/17] PNP: Attach card devices through the driver core Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 07/17] cdx: Propagate DMA configuration errors Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 08/17] driver core: Allow userspace to detect EPROBE_DEFER when using sysfs drivers_probe Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 09/17] driver core: Introduce a generic device trust level Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 10/17] driver core: Expose device trust authorization through sysfs Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:27 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:59 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 14:03 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:17 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 14:26 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 15:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 14:43 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-11-05 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 15:09 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 13:42 ` Robin Murphy
2026-11-05 17:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 19:06 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 11/17] driver core: Accept device trust policy on the kernel command line Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 12/17] driver core: Accept device trust policy by driver name Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 13/17] driver core: Preserve trust commitment beyond driver binding Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 14/17] driver core: Add a global initial device trust policy Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 15/17] driver core: Cover trust authorization and binding with KUnit Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 16/17] driver core: Document trust admission and initrd authorization Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
2026-11-05 11:42 ` [PATCH 17/17] PCI: Replace untrusted state with device trust Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:12 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 13:18 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-05 13:26 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 14:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 15:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-11-05 16:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-11-05 18:26 ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-11-06 11:43 ` sashiko-bot
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