From: rjw@rjwysocki.net (Rafael J. Wysocki)
Subject: [Regression] Commit "nvme/pci: Use host managed power state for suspend" has problems
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 11:48:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2763495.NmdaWeg79L@kreacher> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190731221956.GB15795@localhost.localdomain>
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:19:56 AM CEST Keith Busch wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019@11:25:51PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > A couple of remarks if you will.
> >
> > First, we don't know which case is the majority at this point. For
> > now, there is one example of each, but it may very well turn out that
> > the SK Hynix BC501 above needs to be quirked.
> >
> > Second, the reference here really is 5.2, so if there are any systems
> > that are not better off with 5.3-rc than they were with 5.2, well, we
> > have not made progress. However, if there are systems that are worse
> > off with 5.3, that's bad. In the face of the latest findings the only
> > way to avoid that is to be backwards compatible with 5.2 and that's
> > where my patch is going. That cannot be achieved by quirking all
> > cases that are reported as "bad", because there still may be
> > unreported ones.
>
> I have to agree. I think your proposal may allow PCI D3cold, in which
> case we do need to reintroduce the HMB handling.
So I think I know what the problem is here.
If ASPM is disabled for the NVMe device (which is the case on my machine by default),
skipping the bus-level PM in nvme_suspend() causes the PCIe link of it to stay up and
that prevents the SoC from getting into deeper package C-states.
If I change the ASPM policy to "powersave" (through the module parameter in there),
ASPM gets enabled for the NVMe drive and I can get into PC10 via S2Idle with plain 5.3-rc3.
However, that's a bit less than straightforward, so I'm going to post a patch to make
nvme_suspend() fall back to the "old ways" if ASPM is not enabled for the target device.
Cheers!
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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@dell.com>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
linux-nvme <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>
Subject: Re: [Regression] Commit "nvme/pci: Use host managed power state for suspend" has problems
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2019 11:48:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2763495.NmdaWeg79L@kreacher> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190731221956.GB15795@localhost.localdomain>
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:19:56 AM CEST Keith Busch wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 11:25:51PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> >
> > A couple of remarks if you will.
> >
> > First, we don't know which case is the majority at this point. For
> > now, there is one example of each, but it may very well turn out that
> > the SK Hynix BC501 above needs to be quirked.
> >
> > Second, the reference here really is 5.2, so if there are any systems
> > that are not better off with 5.3-rc than they were with 5.2, well, we
> > have not made progress. However, if there are systems that are worse
> > off with 5.3, that's bad. In the face of the latest findings the only
> > way to avoid that is to be backwards compatible with 5.2 and that's
> > where my patch is going. That cannot be achieved by quirking all
> > cases that are reported as "bad", because there still may be
> > unreported ones.
>
> I have to agree. I think your proposal may allow PCI D3cold, in which
> case we do need to reintroduce the HMB handling.
So I think I know what the problem is here.
If ASPM is disabled for the NVMe device (which is the case on my machine by default),
skipping the bus-level PM in nvme_suspend() causes the PCIe link of it to stay up and
that prevents the SoC from getting into deeper package C-states.
If I change the ASPM policy to "powersave" (through the module parameter in there),
ASPM gets enabled for the NVMe drive and I can get into PC10 via S2Idle with plain 5.3-rc3.
However, that's a bit less than straightforward, so I'm going to post a patch to make
nvme_suspend() fall back to the "old ways" if ASPM is not enabled for the target device.
Cheers!
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2019-07-25 9:51 [Regression] Commit "nvme/pci: Use host managed power state for suspend" has problems Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 9:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 14:02 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-25 14:02 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-25 16:23 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-25 16:23 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-25 17:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 17:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 17:23 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-25 17:23 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-25 18:20 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-25 18:20 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-25 19:09 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-25 19:09 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-30 10:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-30 10:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-30 14:41 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-30 14:41 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-30 17:14 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-30 17:14 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-30 18:50 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-30 18:50 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-30 19:19 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-30 19:19 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-30 21:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-30 21:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-30 21:31 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-30 21:31 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-31 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-31 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-31 22:19 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-31 22:19 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-31 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-31 22:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 9:05 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-01 9:05 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-01 17:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 17:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 19:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-01 19:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-01 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-02 10:55 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-02 10:55 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-02 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-02 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-05 19:13 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-05 19:13 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-08-05 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-05 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-06 14:02 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-06 14:02 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-06 15:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-06 15:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:29 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-01 20:22 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-01 20:22 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-07 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2019-08-07 9:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 10:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 10:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 9:53 ` [PATCH] nvme-pci: Do not prevent PCI bus-level PM from being used Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 9:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-07 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 14:37 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-07 14:37 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-08 8:36 ` [PATCH] nvme-pci: Allow PCI bus-level PM to be used if ASPM is disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 8:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 8:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 9:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 9:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:03 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:06 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI: PCIe: ASPM: Introduce pcie_aspm_enabled_mask() Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 13:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 13:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 14:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] nvme-pci: Allow PCI bus-level PM to be used if ASPM is disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 10:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 13:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 13:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 14:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 17:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 17:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 18:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 18:39 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 20:01 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-08 20:01 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-08 20:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-08 20:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-08-08 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 4:47 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-09 4:47 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-09 8:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 8:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 21:51 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 21:55 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] PCI: PCIe: ASPM: Introduce pcie_aspm_enabled() Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 21:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 4:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-09 4:50 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-09 8:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 8:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-07 22:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-07 22:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-08 9:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-08 9:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-08 21:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-08 21:16 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-08 22:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-08 22:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-09 12:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-09 12:49 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-08-08 21:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] nvme-pci: Allow PCI bus-level PM to be used if ASPM is disabled Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-08 22:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] " Keith Busch
2019-08-08 22:13 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-09 8:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 8:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-09 14:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-08-09 14:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-25 16:59 ` [Regression] Commit "nvme/pci: Use host managed power state for suspend" has problems Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 16:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 14:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-25 14:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-25 19:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 19:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 19:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-25 19:52 ` Keith Busch
2019-07-25 20:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-25 20:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-26 14:02 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-26 14:02 ` Kai-Heng Feng
2019-07-27 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-27 12:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-29 15:51 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-29 15:51 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-07-29 22:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-07-29 22:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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