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Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/15] mm: introduce ANON_VMA_LAZY for deferred anon_vma creation
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2026 04:10:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32e89429f8ca4d4ebd04b1303897eaed@honor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260604111035154Lk-9ZgwKY4Nlk4zz30U1t@zte.com.cn>

> >
> > Even if we could be convinced that most of this here is correct, how
> > should we reasonably maintain this increasing level of complexity here?
> 
> Indeed, it's very complex, but having the changes of 15 patches scattered
> across various subsystems is really frustrating for reviewers. It took me a
> whole day to read through the entire patch set, which made an already
> complicated matter even more complex (maintaining such complex code in
> the future will be a pain).
> 
> However, overall, I think the original intention behind Tao's patch is
> innovative and valuable, and Tao could definitely make this patch set simpler
> and more readable, because the core changes actually start from PATCH 10.
> 
Yes, initially it was basically patches 9, 10, and 13. Because without
distinguishing the anon_rmap and anon_vma topology, some fundamental code
logic is hard to understand, I added these two logical layers when
preparing to submit it to the community. However, this also significantly
increased the amount of code, which is not ideal.

> I believe that if Tao had done the following, things might have gone better
> and easier for reviewing. In fact, I understand the motivation behind the
> patch is quite simple at its core (just wanting to avoid allocating the
> anon_vma structure when a VMA hasn't been truly forked, and instead put
> the VMA information directly into folio->mapping):
> 
> 1) You could actually simplify your patch significantly — without adding a lot
> of wrappers and helper functions that introduce extra review overhead —
> and keep only the most essential elements.
> 
> 2) Provide complete test code (in tools/testing/selftest) that covers the
> affected functionality, such as VMA, huge pages, KSM, etc.
> 
> 3) Use the RFC tag to start a discussion.
> 
> 
> I would be very glad to see if Tao could post a simpler v2 version that does
> not alter the rmap core data structures too much and does not introduce
> excessive complexity, no matter whether it can be merged finaly.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-04  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-27 11:01 [PATCH 0/15] mm: introduce ANON_VMA_LAZY for deferred anon_vma creation tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 01/15] mm/rmap: introduce anon_rmap APIs for anonymous folios tao
2026-05-27 11:32   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28  7:47     ` wangtao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 02/15] mm: convert anon_vma rmap APIs to anon_rmap tao
2026-05-27 11:49   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28  8:55     ` wangtao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 03/15] mm: introduce anon_vma_tree_t for multiple anon_vma topologies tao
2026-05-27 11:56   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28  9:00     ` wangtao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 04/15] mm: switch to anon_vma_tree_t APIs in preparation for ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 11:53   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 05/15] mm: add CONFIG_ANON_VMA_LAZY and folio helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 06/15] mm: add CONFIG_VMA_REF and VMA helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:42   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 07/15] mm: replace direct FOLIO_MAPPING_ANON usage with helpers tao
2026-05-27 11:43   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 08/15] mm: prepare rmap infrastructure for ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 14:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 09/15] mm: implement ANON_VMA_LAZY rmap semantics tao
2026-05-27 12:15   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 10/15] mm: defer anon_vma creation with ANON_VMA_LAZY tao
2026-05-27 12:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 11/15] mm: handle ANON_VMA_LAZY in huge page operations tao
2026-05-27 12:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 12/15] mm: handle ANON_VMA_LAZY during migration tao
2026-05-27 12:23   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 13/15] mm: support setup and upgrade of ANON_VMA_LAZY folios tao
2026-05-27 13:02   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 14/15] mm: support merging of ANON_VMA_LAZY VMAs tao
2026-05-27 12:49   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:01 ` [PATCH 15/15] mm: enable CONFIG_ANON_VMA_LAZY on arm64 and x86_64 tao
2026-05-27 17:19   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-27 11:23 ` [PATCH 0/15] mm: introduce ANON_VMA_LAZY for deferred anon_vma creation Pedro Falcato
2026-05-28  6:45   ` wangtao
2026-05-28  7:14     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-27 11:30 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28  7:11   ` wangtao
2026-05-28  7:22     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-27 14:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28  7:57   ` wangtao
2026-05-28  8:14     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-28 23:31       ` Barry Song
2026-05-29  2:20         ` wangzicheng
2026-05-29  6:56           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29  6:45         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29  9:41         ` wangtao
2026-05-29 12:03           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01  1:46             ` wangtao
2026-06-02  2:15               ` Barry Song
2026-06-02  2:46                 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:37                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 19:44                     ` Pedro Falcato
2026-06-02 23:03                     ` Barry Song
2026-06-03  7:07                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 19:56                 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-02 22:27                   ` Barry Song
2026-06-02 20:47             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-29 15:07         ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-05-29 15:40           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-30 11:28             ` Barry Song
2026-06-02 16:07 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-03  2:59   ` wangtao
2026-06-03  3:12     ` wangtao
2026-06-03  7:54     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-03 11:05       ` wangtao
2026-06-03 11:53         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-04  3:50           ` wangtao
2026-06-03 20:25 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 22:14   ` Barry Song
2026-06-04  4:03     ` wangtao
2026-06-04  4:20       ` Barry Song
2026-06-04  7:35         ` wangtao
2026-06-09 15:26           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2026-06-09 15:49             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04  3:10   ` xu.xin16
2026-06-04  4:10     ` wangtao [this message]
2026-06-05  9:38     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-05 10:07       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-05 10:56         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-04  9:40   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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