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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>,
	"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
	"Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lkml - Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Christopher Covington" <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:17:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3811106.btnGdZynet@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151123231352.GH19156@codeaurora.org>

On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > @@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
> >  	  such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
> >  
> >  config CLKSRC_QCOM
> > -	bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
> > +	bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
> >  	depends on ARM
> > +	default ARCH_QCOM
> >  	select CLKSRC_OF
> >  	help
> >  	  This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the
> > 
> > would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
> > the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
> > Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.
> 
> Yeah I think that architected timers are an outlier. I recall
> some words from John Stultz that platforms should select the
> clocksources they use, but maybe things have changed. For this
> kind of thing I wouldn't mind putting it in the defconfig though.
> I'll put the patches on the list to get the discussion started.

Ok, thanks!
 
> > This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
> > PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
> > the two other categories.
> > 
> > The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":
> > 
> > - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
> >   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
> >   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
> >   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.
> 
> Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
> that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.

Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:

| According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
| divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
| access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
|
|    MRC<cond> p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|    SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
| on ARM cores.
|
|And:
|
|    MRC<cond> p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|    UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
|on ARM cores.
|
|This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
|PJ4B datasheet.

I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.

IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.

> > - Krait (pre-450) won't run kernels with LPAE disabled, but if we only
> >   have one global ARCH_QCOM option that can be enabled for both
> >   ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and ARCH_MULTI_V7, we still win: a mach-qcom
> >   kernel with only ARCH_MULTI_V7VE will use IDIV by default, and
> >   give you the option to enable LPAE. If you pick LPAE, it will
> >   still work fine on Krait-450 but not the older ones, and that is
> >   a user error. If you enable ARCH_MULTI_V7 / CPU_V7, you get neither
> >   LPAE nor IDIV, and the kernel will be able to run on both Scorpion
> >   and Krait, as long as you have the right drivers too.
> > 
> 
> So if I have built mach-qcom with ARCH_MULTI_V7VE won't I get a
> kernel that uses idiv instructions that could be run on Scorpion,
> where the instruction doesn't exist? Or is that a user error
> again like picking LPAE?

Right. If you want to run on Scorpion, you have to select ARCH_MULTI_V7.
If both are set, we should build with -march=armv7-a and not use
the idiv instructions.
 
> It seems fine to me to go ahead with this approach. Should I take
> care of cooking up the patches? I can package this all up into a
> series that adds the new CPU type, updates the affected
> platforms, and layers the runtime patching on top when plain V7
> is a selected CPU type.

That would be nice, yes.

	Arnd

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:17:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3811106.btnGdZynet@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151123231352.GH19156@codeaurora.org>

On Monday 23 November 2015 15:13:52 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 11/23, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Monday 23 November 2015 13:32:06 Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > index b251013eef0a..bad6343c34d5 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/Kconfig
> > @@ -324,8 +324,9 @@ config EM_TIMER_STI
> >  	  such as EMEV2 from former NEC Electronics.
> >  
> >  config CLKSRC_QCOM
> > -	bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if COMPILE_TEST
> > +	bool "Qualcomm MSM timer" if ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
> >  	depends on ARM
> > +	default ARCH_QCOM
> >  	select CLKSRC_OF
> >  	help
> >  	  This enables the clocksource and the per CPU clockevent driver for the
> > 
> > would make both of them equally configurable and not clutter up
> > the Kconfig file when ARCH_QCOM is not selected. I've added
> > Daniel Lezcano to Cc, he probably has an opinion on this too.
> 
> Yeah I think that architected timers are an outlier. I recall
> some words from John Stultz that platforms should select the
> clocksources they use, but maybe things have changed. For this
> kind of thing I wouldn't mind putting it in the defconfig though.
> I'll put the patches on the list to get the discussion started.

Ok, thanks!
 
> > This works perfectly for Cortex-A5, -A8, -A9, -A12, -A15, -A17, Brahma-B15,
> > PJ4B-MP, Scorpion and Krait-450, which all clearly fall into one of
> > the two other categories.
> > 
> > The two exceptions that don't quite fit are still "good enough":
> > 
> > - PJ4/PJ4B (not PJ4B-MP) has a different custom opcode for udiv and sdiv
> >   in ARM mode. We don't support that with true multiplatform kernels
> >   because those opcodes work nowhere else, though with your proposed
> >   series we could easily do that for dynamic patching.
> 
> Do you have the information on these custom opcodes? I can work
> that into the patches assuming the MIDR is different.

Thomas Petazzoni said this in a private mail:

| According to the datasheet, the PJ4B has integer signed and unsigned
| divide, similar to the sdiv and udiv ARM instructions. But the way to
| access it is by doing a MRC instruction.
|
|    MRC<cond> p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 4
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|    SDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
| on ARM cores.
|
|And:
|
|    MRC<cond> p6, 1, Rd , CRn , CRm, 0
|
|for PJ4B is the same as:
|
|    UDIV Rd , Rn, Rm
|
|on ARM cores.
|
|This is documented in the "Extended instructions" section of the
|PJ4B datasheet.

I assume what he meant was that this is true for both PJ4 and PJ4B
but not for PJ4B-MP, which has the normal udiv/sdiv instructions.

IOW, anything with CPU implementer 0x56 part 0x581 should use those,
while part 0x584 can use the sdiv/udiv that it reports correctly.

> > - Krait (pre-450) won't run kernels with LPAE disabled, but if we only
> >   have one global ARCH_QCOM option that can be enabled for both
> >   ARCH_MULTI_V7VE and ARCH_MULTI_V7, we still win: a mach-qcom
> >   kernel with only ARCH_MULTI_V7VE will use IDIV by default, and
> >   give you the option to enable LPAE. If you pick LPAE, it will
> >   still work fine on Krait-450 but not the older ones, and that is
> >   a user error. If you enable ARCH_MULTI_V7 / CPU_V7, you get neither
> >   LPAE nor IDIV, and the kernel will be able to run on both Scorpion
> >   and Krait, as long as you have the right drivers too.
> > 
> 
> So if I have built mach-qcom with ARCH_MULTI_V7VE won't I get a
> kernel that uses idiv instructions that could be run on Scorpion,
> where the instruction doesn't exist? Or is that a user error
> again like picking LPAE?

Right. If you want to run on Scorpion, you have to select ARCH_MULTI_V7.
If both are set, we should build with -march=armv7-a and not use
the idiv instructions.
 
> It seems fine to me to go ahead with this approach. Should I take
> care of cooking up the patches? I can package this all up into a
> series that adds the new CPU type, updates the affected
> platforms, and layers the runtime patching on top when plain V7
> is a selected CPU type.

That would be nice, yes.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-24 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-21  1:23 [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23 ` [RFC/PATCH 1/3] scripts: Allow recordmcount to be used without tracing enabled Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23 ` [RFC/PATCH 2/3] recordmcount: Record locations of __aeabi_{u}idiv() calls on ARM Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21 10:13   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-21 10:13     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-23 20:53     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 20:53       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 20:58       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-11-23 20:58         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-11-23 21:03       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-23 21:03         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-23 21:16         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:16           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:33           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-23 21:33             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24  1:04             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24  1:04               ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23 ` [RFC/PATCH 3/3] ARM: Replace calls to __aeabi_{u}idiv with udiv/sdiv instructions Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21  1:23   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21 11:50   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-21 11:50     ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-23 20:49     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 20:49       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 20:54       ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-23 20:54         ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-23 21:16         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:16           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-21 20:39 ` [RFC/PATCH 0/3] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 20:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 20:45   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-21 20:45     ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-21 21:00     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 21:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 22:11       ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-21 22:11         ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-21 23:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 23:14           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 23:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-21 23:21             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 13:29             ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-22 13:29               ` Peter Maydell
2015-11-22 19:25               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 19:25                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 19:30                 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 19:30                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 19:30                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 19:47                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-22 19:47                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-22 19:58                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 19:58                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:03                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-22 20:03                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-22 20:37                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:37                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 20:39                         ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 20:39                           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 20:39                           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-22 21:18                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-22 21:18                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23  2:36                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-23  2:36                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-23  8:15                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23  8:15                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 14:14                         ` Christopher Covington
2015-11-23 14:14                           ` Christopher Covington
2015-11-23 15:32                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 15:32                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 20:38                             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 20:38                               ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:19                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 21:19                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 21:32                                 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:32                                   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 21:57                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 21:57                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-23 23:13                                     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-23 23:13                                       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24 10:17                                       ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-11-24 10:17                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24 12:15                                         ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:15                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:15                                           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 13:45                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24 13:45                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-25  1:51                                         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25  1:51                                           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25  7:21                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-25  7:21                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24  0:13                                     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24  0:13                                       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24  8:53                                       ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24  8:53                                         ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24 10:38                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24 10:38                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24 10:42                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 10:42                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 10:42                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 12:10                                             ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:10                                               ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:10                                               ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:23                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 12:23                                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 12:29                                                 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:29                                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 12:29                                                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 14:00                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 14:00                                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 14:03                                                     ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 14:03                                                       ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 14:03                                                       ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-24 10:39                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 10:39                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 20:07                                           ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24 20:07                                             ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24 20:35                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 20:35                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 21:11                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-11-24 21:11                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-13  1:51                                               ` Stephen Boyd
2016-01-13  1:51                                                 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-24 10:37                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-24 10:37                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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