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From: David Ford <david@linux.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
Cc: tytso@mit.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	rgooch@atnf.csiro.au, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 18:32:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A03753F.548324A9@linux.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200011031509.eA3F9V719729@trampoline.thunk.org> <3A033A45.D8F6E952@mandrakesoft.com>

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Jeff Garzik wrote:

> >      * 2.4.0-test8 pcmcia is unusable in fall forms (kernel, mixed, or
> >        dhinds code) (David Ford)
>
> "fall forms"?
>
> David clearly has problems w/ pcmcia, but it is not at all as broken as
> he makes it out to be:  all my cardbus laptops boot and work.
>
>
> >      * PCMCIA/Cardbus hangs (Basically unusable - Hinds pcmcia code is
> >        reliable)
>
> Again "whatever".  The CardBus code is definitely usable.  It is not
> mature, but saying it is "basically unusable" is wildly inaccurate.

The qualifiers I reported are not included above so don't take it to mean
wide ranging.

I reported pcmcia in all forms was broken for test8 on -my hardware-.

Other kernels such as test10-prex that I'm on now are workable with dhinds
pcmcia.  I sent you all the requested information you asked for in several
forms.  The kernel's idea of the the sockets just doesn't work...again, on
-my hardware-.

It doesn't matter what voodoo you practice, all of the kernels in the last
year have been unable to drive -my hardware- in any sort of stable fashion.
Recent kernels just can't figure out IRQs for the sockets.

David's package works in all situations except for the combined ne2k/modem
that I reported earlier and the ray_cs in similar fashion.

For the second report, when the kernel did figure out IRQs for the sockets,
plugging in a card sometimes killed all software interrupts.  I.e. hardware
responded such as caps, screen blank/active etc, but no mouse or key events
made it past the kernel.  Unplugging a card or putting it in socket 0
normally caused a plethura of unending OOPSes or another hang on the
insertion.

Ted, please put my qualifier back in, "On this NEC Versa LX laptop", I don't
want my reports taken out of context. :)

-d


--
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an
eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was
'committed'."



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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-04  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 145+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-11-03 15:09 Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10) tytso
2000-11-03 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-03 16:55   ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-03 19:03     ` kuznet
2000-11-03 21:03   ` David Ford
2000-11-03 21:10     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 21:51       ` David Ford
2000-11-04  1:27         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  0:14       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-04  1:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  2:37         ` David Ford
2000-11-07 20:21       ` tytso
2000-11-07 19:23         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 21:37   ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 19:28     ` Paul Gortmaker
2000-11-07 20:17   ` tytso
2000-11-07 19:21     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 16:09 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-03 18:36 ` loop device hangs Christian van Enckevort
2000-11-03 22:20 ` Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10) Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  2:32   ` David Ford [this message]
2000-11-07 20:40     ` tytso
2000-11-04 13:12   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-11-07 20:36   ` tytso
2000-11-04  1:10 ` James Simmons
2000-11-04  1:38   ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11 22:47   ` tytso
2000-11-04 10:43 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-04 20:34   ` Russell King
2000-11-05 23:15   ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  0:47     ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06  0:54       ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  1:28         ` Persistent module storage [was Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page] Keith Owens
2000-11-06  6:39           ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  7:12           ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-11-06  7:17             ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  7:25               ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06  7:29                 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 10:53                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 11:03                   ` Dan Hollis
2000-11-06 11:04                     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 11:35                       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 11:36                         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 11:06                     ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 11:09                       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 11:20                       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 11:37                       ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 11:40                         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 11:47                         ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 11:57                           ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 12:03                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 13:12                           ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 13:38                             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 13:56                             ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 13:21                           ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 13:35                           ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 17:12                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 17:38                               ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 18:39                               ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-06 21:28                                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 18:55                             ` Dan Hollis
2000-11-07  0:18                               ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07  0:27                                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-07  0:38                                   ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07 12:07                                     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-07 12:13                                       ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07 12:35                                         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-07 12:49                                           ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07 12:52                                             ` Alan Cox
2000-11-07 12:51                                           ` Petko Manolov
2000-11-06 13:40                           ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 15:23                             ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 15:34                             ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 16:31                               ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 17:06                                 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 17:25                                   ` Alon Ziv
2000-11-06 17:34                                     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 19:49                                       ` Rogier Wolff
2000-11-06 21:34                                         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 17:25                                   ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 19:27                                     ` Tim Riker
2000-11-06 21:33                                       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 23:57                                   ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 17:23                                 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-08 14:56                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2000-11-06 18:00                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-06 17:29                                   ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 16:42                               ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 16:57                                 ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 17:01                                   ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 23:54                                     ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-07  8:44                                       ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 17:12                                   ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 17:45                                     ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 18:37                                     ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-07  0:04                                     ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 17:08                               ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 17:33                                 ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 23:28                                   ` Gerhard Mack
2000-11-07  0:34                                     ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07  0:42                                       ` Gerhard Mack
2000-11-07  0:43                                         ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07  1:20                                           ` Gerhard Mack
2000-11-07  8:41                                             ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-07  1:44                                       ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 17:44                                 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 17:53                                   ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 20:46                                     ` Evan Jeffrey
2000-11-07  0:23                                       ` James A. Sutherland
2000-11-06 15:15                         ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-06 17:19                           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 17:34                             ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 18:22                               ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-11-06 18:37                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 19:09                                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-11-07  0:32                                     ` Horst von Brand
2000-11-06 21:19                                   ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 18:22                         ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-06 21:18                           ` Alan Cox
2000-11-06 23:00                             ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-07  2:11                               ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06  7:28               ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-11-06  7:32                 ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  7:45                   ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06  8:00                     ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 13:44                       ` Andrew Pimlott
2000-11-06  7:48                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2000-11-06  8:02                     ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06 18:09                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2000-11-06 21:17                         ` Alan Cox
2000-11-07  9:55                           ` Helge Hafting
2000-11-07  2:09                         ` Keith Owens
     [not found] <20001103202911.A2979@gruyere.muc.suse.de>
2000-11-03 19:37 ` Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10) kuznet
2000-11-03 21:29   ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04 19:41     ` kuznet
2000-11-06  9:10       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 17:45         ` kuznet
2000-11-03 22:01   ` Bill Wendling
2000-11-03 22:30     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 23:41       ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-03 23:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  9:04           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  1:48           ` David C. Davies
2001-01-07  2:14           ` David C. Davies
2000-11-04  0:19     ` Alan Cox

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