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From: Manfred Spraul <manfred@colorfullife.com>
To: Jes Sorensen <jes@linuxcare.com>
Cc: Ion Badulescu <ionut@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Donald Becker <becker@scyld.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device.
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:48:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A8554D1.96ED1238@colorfullife.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0102081259090.31024-100000@age.cs.columbia.edu> <3A831313.A23EE2A1@colorfullife.com> <d38znfwmzq.fsf@lxplus015.cern.ch>

Hi Jes,

I read through your acenic driver and noticed that you replaced
spinlocks with bitops.

Is that a good idea? I always avoid bitops and replace them with
spinlocks:

* On uniprocessor they are obviously slower.
* on SMP i386 spin_lock() / spin_unlock() is faster than
test_and_set_bit()/clear_bit(): the spinlock operations have a
direction, and thus no memory barrier is required in spin_unlock,
Intel's default memory ordering is sufficient. clear_bit() doesn't know
that it will be used to end a protected area, thus it needs a full
memory barrier.

* on ia64 spinlocks are probably faster, and it seems that clear_bit()
instead of spin_unlock() might even cause races:
spin_unlock() needs a 'release' memory barrier, but clear_bit() contains
an 'acquire' memory barrier.

I only see 2 advantages for bitops:
* you can avoid disabling local interrupts in hard_tx_xmit() or other
bottom half handlers, but often you only need the disabled interrupts
for a few instructions.
* you won't spin - but spinning should be rare, or you can use
spin_trylock().

--
	Manfred
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-02-10 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-02-07 19:52 [PATCH] starfire reads irq before pci_enable_device davej
2001-02-07 19:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-07 20:34   ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-08  4:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08  1:52   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-08 20:28     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 21:18       ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-08 21:38         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 22:05           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 19:08             ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-09 20:07               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 20:11                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-09 20:21                   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 20:26                     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-08 21:43         ` Manfred Spraul
2001-02-08 21:46           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 21:43           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 21:52             ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-12 18:54               ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-14  1:35                 ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-10 14:48             ` Manfred Spraul [this message]
2001-02-08 21:26       ` Donald Becker
2001-02-08 22:16         ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09  0:09           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09  0:44           ` Donald Becker
2001-02-09  0:47             ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 10:49             ` Alan Cox
2001-02-09 23:32               ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-09 23:35                 ` Alan Cox
2001-02-10  8:48                   ` Gérard Roudier
2001-02-12 19:01                     ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-13 13:06                       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-13 20:29                         ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14  2:05                           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 20:10                             ` Gérard Roudier
2001-02-14 15:39                         ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-17 21:34                         ` David S. Miller
2001-02-19 11:00                           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 21:42       ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-09 22:56         ` Donald Becker
2001-02-12 18:54           ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-14  1:20             ` Donald Becker
2001-02-14 12:37               ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 12:49                 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-02-14 12:54                   ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 13:05                     ` Alan Cox
2001-02-14 13:38                       ` Ion Badulescu
2001-02-14 15:35               ` Jes Sorensen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-02-14 16:54 Petr Vandrovec
2001-02-15 16:09 ` Jes Sorensen
2001-02-07 18:42 davej

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