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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	rddunlap@osdl.org, davej@redhat.com, willy@debian.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-janitor-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: C99 Initialisers
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:44:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F3A952C.4050708@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030813193855.E20676@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 02:26:11PM -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> 
>>Again, my philosophy:  put the data in its most natural form.  In 
>>CS-speak, domain-specific languages.  So, just figure out what you want 
>>the data files to look like, and I'll volunteer to write the parser for it.
> 
> 
> But what's the point of the extra complexity?  People already put
> references to other structures in the driver_data element, and
> enums, so completely splitting the device IDs from the module
> source is not going to be practical.

enums are easy  putting direct references would be annoying, but I also 
argue it's potentially broken and wrong to store and export that 
information publicly anyway.  The use of enums instead of pointers is 
practically required because there is a many-to-one relationship of ids 
to board information structs.


> Are you thinking of a parser which outputs C code for the module to
> include?  That might be made to work, but it doesn't sound as elegant
> as the solution being described previously in this thread.
> 
> "Make the easy things easy (PCI_DEVICE(vendor,device)) and make the
> not so easy things possible (the long form)"

That ignores the people who also need to get at the data, which must 
first be compiled from C into object code, then extracted via modutils, 
then turned into a computer readable form again, then used.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-13 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-12  2:02 C99 Initialisers CaT
2003-08-12  2:18 ` Robert Love
2003-08-12  2:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12  2:45     ` Robert Love
2003-08-12  2:57     ` Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
2003-08-12  5:38     ` Greg KH
2003-08-12  9:01       ` Maciej Soltysiak
2003-08-12 10:03         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-12 10:19           ` Jakub Jelinek
2003-08-12 11:27       ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12 16:54         ` Ian Hastie
2003-08-12 18:01         ` Greg KH
2003-08-12 23:53           ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13  0:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-13  0:23               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13  0:31                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-14  5:45               ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-13 15:52             ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-13 17:50               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:14             ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  0:31               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  0:37                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  0:49                   ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13  1:25                     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13  3:02                     ` Randy.Dunlap
2003-08-13  3:26                       ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 10:14                         ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 17:31                           ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 17:36                             ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 17:47                             ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:02                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 18:26                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:38                                   ` Russell King
2003-08-13 19:44                                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-08-13 19:54                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-13 20:15                                         ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 20:16                                         ` Dave Jones
2003-08-13 20:30                                           ` Matt Domsch
2003-08-13 20:29                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 21:05                                           ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 22:24                                             ` Roman Zippel
2003-08-14 20:31                                               ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-14 10:05                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-14 10:25                                             ` Gene Heskett
2003-08-14 10:52                                             ` jw schultz
2003-08-14 12:34                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-08-14 12:57                                             ` Andrey Panin
2003-08-14 18:45                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-08-13 21:06                                       ` Russell King
2003-08-13 21:17                                       ` Eduardo Pereira Habkost
2003-08-13 17:50                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 17:54                               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 17:54                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-13 17:58                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-08-13 18:03                                 ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 17:58                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-13 18:21                                 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-08-13 18:09                               ` Russell King
2003-08-13 20:21                             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-08-13 21:17                               ` David S. Miller
2003-08-13 21:26                               ` Greg KH
2003-08-14 22:46                                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-08-12 17:37     ` Dave Jones
2003-08-12 17:48       ` Matthew Wilcox
2003-08-12 22:06         ` Ian Hastie
2003-08-13 15:54   ` CaT
2003-08-14  6:57     ` Maciej Soltysiak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-12 16:52 Shureih, Tariq
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2003-08-13 21:19                     ` junkio
2003-08-13 22:18                       ` Greg KH

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