* LAN
@ 2003-12-26 6:44 Jose Colmenares
2003-12-26 7:40 ` LAN Ray Olszewski
2003-12-26 8:32 ` LAN pa3gcu
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jose Colmenares @ 2003-12-26 6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
I just installed Slackware. It's working fine and
smooth. I also have three machines runing Windows (one
XP and two 98). These are conected through a LAN. ¿How
do I configure my new linux system to recognize the
network and comunicate to it? it does not even
recognize the LAN card. ¿did I miss something during
the configuration?
thanks.
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* Re: LAN
2003-12-26 6:44 LAN Jose Colmenares
@ 2003-12-26 7:40 ` Ray Olszewski
2003-12-26 8:32 ` LAN pa3gcu
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From: Ray Olszewski @ 2003-12-26 7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
At 12:44 AM 12/26/2003 -0600, Jose Colmenares wrote:
>I just installed Slackware. It's working fine and
>smooth. I also have three machines runing Windows (one
>XP and two 98). These are conected through a LAN. ¿How
>do I configure my new linux system to recognize the
>network and comunicate to it? it does not even
>recognize the LAN card. ¿did I miss something during
>the configuration?
Most likely you did. Exactly what you missed is hard to say. For more
specific help, please tell us:
1. What version of Slackware?
2. What version of the Linux kernel? ("uname -a")
3. What network interface card (NIC) are you using in the system?
4. How do you know "it does not even recognize the LAN card"? Just so *we*
can be sure, what is the complete output of "ifconfig -a" (run it as root)?
I'm not a Slackware user myself, but there are many Slackware users here
(though the holidays may keep them away from email for the next little
while). If I can't answer you after you provide the additional information,
I'm sure one of them will be able to after seeing it. I should mention that
Slackware is in many ways different from the other main Linux distros, so
the remainder of what follows is something of a guess on my part, based on
the way Debian, the distro I use, does things.
I'm not sure how Slackware sets up networking these days, but the usual way
with Linux is to put the information needed to set up an interface in
/etc/networks/interfaces ... your NIC would be entered there as eth0.
You'll enter either the usual sorts of info about IP address, netmask,
gateway, and such, or you will enter here that the interface gets
configured by DHCP (depending on how your network is actually set up).
If you are entering the information by hand, then you'll also want to enter
the IP addresses of the DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf ... if you are
using DHCP, then the DHCP client (which might be pump, dhclient, or dhcpcd)
can update this file from the lease info it gets.
The boot/init process should use this information to set up your
networking. If not, you can (usually) use the command, as root, "ifup -a"
to start networking manually.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* Re: LAN
2003-12-26 6:44 LAN Jose Colmenares
2003-12-26 7:40 ` LAN Ray Olszewski
@ 2003-12-26 8:32 ` pa3gcu
2003-12-26 16:55 ` LAN Jose Colmenares
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From: pa3gcu @ 2003-12-26 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
On Friday 26 December 2003 07:44, Jose Colmenares wrote:
> I just installed Slackware. It's working fine and
> smooth. I also have three machines runing Windows (one
> XP and two 98). These are conected through a LAN. ¿How
> do I configure my new linux system to recognize the
> network and comunicate to it? it does not even
> recognize the LAN card. ¿did I miss something during
> the configuration?
Yes possably you did miss configuring the LAN when you installed slack, you
also missed providing us with helpfull information.
Name and type of card. ?
{Slack version, 9.1 has a different config file for LAN networking.}
Results of ifconfig -a
Does your lan use a dhcp server for configuration, or do you set your own
address?.
The command 'netconfig' may help you.
Setting your device driver in /etc/rc.d/rc.netdevice should take care of
loading the module for the card.
Thats about all i can say because you failed to provide the info needed to
give a direct answer.
>
> thanks.
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* Re: LAN
2003-12-26 8:32 ` LAN pa3gcu
@ 2003-12-26 16:55 ` Jose Colmenares
2003-12-26 18:39 ` LAN Onur Kucuk
2003-12-27 19:46 ` LAN pa3gcu
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From: Jose Colmenares @ 2003-12-26 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
I'm using slackware 9.1
the LAN card is an old GENIUS LAN
ifconfig -a:
link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:164436 Metric:1
Rx packets:218 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:218 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:17370 (16.9Kb) TX bytes:17370 (16.9Kb)
uname -a:
Linux Cic3 2.4.22 #6 Tue Sp 2 17:43:01 PDT 2003 i686
unknown unknow GNU/Linux
And yes, the lan uses a dhcp server for configuration
(or so I understand). I have three machines conected
to a hub on a PIII runing XP. The IP is giving
everytime it restarts.
I runned netconfig, but never I have been asked about
what device I'm using. /etc/rc.d/rc.netdevice does not
exists! so I don't know how to tell the cpu wich
driver to use, neither to conect to the internet
through the LAN.
By the way, when I try to put a CD to play music, it
does not mount it. Says "wrong fs type, bad option,
bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file
systems", but I mount the iso cd through wich I
installed Slackware goes smooth. ¿is the the file
system? if so, ¿wich one should i use?
Thanks a lot for answering so soon on holydays. Merry
Christmas!
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* Re: LAN
2003-12-26 16:55 ` LAN Jose Colmenares
@ 2003-12-26 18:39 ` Onur Kucuk
2003-12-27 19:46 ` LAN pa3gcu
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From: Onur Kucuk @ 2003-12-26 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:55:33 -0600 (CST)
Jose Colmenares <jbcolmena2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
JC> I'm using slackware 9.1
Then you can make your configuration by editing the file /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1.conf
Have your /etc/rc.d/rc.inet1 have execute permission ( chmod +x file )
JC> the LAN card is an old GENIUS LAN
This info most probably is not enough to tell you what module supports your card.
Do a "lspci -v" and get more detail about your card.
If you have /etc/rc.d/rc.hotplug as executable, it probably will detect your card and install the necessary kernel module when you boot.
JC> ifconfig -a:
JC>
JC> link encap:Local Loopback
JC> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
JC> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:164436 Metric:1
JC> Rx packets:218 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
JC> TX packets:218 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
JC> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
JC> RX bytes:17370 (16.9Kb) TX bytes:17370 (16.9Kb)
JC>
JC> uname -a:
JC> Linux Cic3 2.4.22 #6 Tue Sp 2 17:43:01 PDT 2003 i686
JC> unknown unknow GNU/Linux
JC>
JC> And yes, the lan uses a dhcp server for configuration
JC> (or so I understand). I have three machines conected
JC> to a hub on a PIII runing XP. The IP is giving
JC> everytime it restarts.
JC>
JC> I runned netconfig, but never I have been asked about
JC> what device I'm using. /etc/rc.d/rc.netdevice does not
JC> exists!
Doesn't have to.
JC> so I don't know how to tell the cpu wich
JC> driver to use, neither to conect to the internet
JC> through the LAN.
Just check what rc.hotplug does. It might have already done (check with the command lsmod)
JC>
JC> By the way, when I try to put a CD to play music, it
JC> does not mount it. Says "wrong fs type, bad option,
JC> bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, or too many mounted file
JC> systems", but I mount the iso cd through wich I
JC> installed Slackware goes smooth. ¿is the the file
JC> system? if so, ¿wich one should i use?
Music CD's don't have "filesystems" that you can browse. An application may emulate as if they have, but they don't. Just put the cd and start a cd player program.
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* Re: LAN
2003-12-26 16:55 ` LAN Jose Colmenares
2003-12-26 18:39 ` LAN Onur Kucuk
@ 2003-12-27 19:46 ` pa3gcu
2004-01-02 19:52 ` IO Jose Colmenares
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From: pa3gcu @ 2003-12-27 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose Colmenares, linux-newbie
On Friday 26 December 2003 17:55, Jose Colmenares wrote:
> I'm using slackware 9.1
> the LAN card is an old GENIUS LAN
You will need to be more spesific, just what chipset does this card use, to be
honest i have never heard of such a card name.
I have checked www.scyld.com/ (home of the linux ethernet device drivers) but
i can find no mention of such a card.
Is it a PCI card or an ISA card.????
That makes one hell of a difference when trying to configure things.
Does it work under windows, if yes can you place it in a windows computer and
then note down its details, if its a ISA card note also the IRQ and IO
address.
Every detail counts here.
If all else fails extracht the card and write down the chipsets numbers.
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* IO
2003-12-27 19:46 ` LAN pa3gcu
@ 2004-01-02 19:52 ` Jose Colmenares
2004-01-02 21:53 ` IO caszonyi
2004-01-02 22:15 ` IO Ray Olszewski
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jose Colmenares @ 2004-01-02 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
to my system?
I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
a isa-pnp (wich could be my card), ifconfig only
detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,
but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
figure i need to do so, or not?)
Thanks.
By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
imposible since i did not ask for the correct
information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!
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* Re: IO
2004-01-02 19:52 ` IO Jose Colmenares
@ 2004-01-02 21:53 ` caszonyi
2004-01-02 23:39 ` IO Jose Colmenares
2004-01-02 22:15 ` IO Ray Olszewski
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: caszonyi @ 2004-01-02 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose Colmenares; +Cc: linux-newbie
On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] Jose Colmenares wrote:
> I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
> setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
> but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
> for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
> works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
> know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
> and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
> to my system?
try to enable pnp in kernel and include in the kernel the driver for
your card (ne2000)
run dmesg and chech in the output if the kernel has detected your card.
If not go to step 2 :-)
compile the support for your card as a module
reboot with your new kernel
use isapnnp to setup your card :-)
(pnpdump > isapnp.conf.sample
copy isapnp.conf.sample in /etc/isapnp.conf
and edit it to suit your needs )
then insmod the module for ne2000 with the parameters for io and int from
the isapnp.conf
and then ifconfig ...
> I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
> a isa-pnp (wich could be my card),
isa-pnp is maybe the module for isa-pnp not for your card
you will have to have a module ne2k i think
> ifconfig only
> detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,
> but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
> fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
> figure i need to do so, or not?)
ifconfig *doesn't detect*.
ifconfig configures network interfaces and displays information about this
configuration.
man isapnp
man pnpdump
man ifconfig
might help you :-)
> Thanks.
> By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
> quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
> imposible since i did not ask for the correct
> information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!
>
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* IO
2004-01-02 21:53 ` IO caszonyi
@ 2004-01-02 23:39 ` Jose Colmenares
2004-01-03 5:26 ` IO rob.rice
2004-01-03 6:18 ` IO Ray Olszewski
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jose Colmenares @ 2004-01-02 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
Found isapnptools.
did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
have internet on my slack box.
It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
was found with such an adress).
¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ?
Also, on dmesg, it says:
isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.
Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
windows. It was using this:
Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
i/o interval 02c0-02df
Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 20+ messages in thread* Re: IO
2004-01-02 23:39 ` IO Jose Colmenares
@ 2004-01-03 5:26 ` rob.rice
2004-01-03 6:24 ` IO Ray Olszewski
2004-01-03 6:18 ` IO Ray Olszewski
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: rob.rice @ 2004-01-03 5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure
the eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite
frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and
from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so
this may be what the problem is
Jose Colmenares wrote:
> Found isapnptools.
> did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
> cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
> broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
> have internet on my slack box.
>
> It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
> 0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
> modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
> was found with such an adress).
>
> ¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ?
>
> Also, on dmesg, it says:
> isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
> isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.
>
> Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
> windows. It was using this:
>
> Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
> i/o interval 02c0-02df
> Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
> and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device
>
>
>
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* Re: IO
2004-01-03 5:26 ` IO rob.rice
@ 2004-01-03 6:24 ` Ray Olszewski
2004-01-03 9:32 ` IO pa3gcu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-01-03 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
At 12:26 AM 1/3/2004 -0500, rob.rice wrote:
>IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure the
>eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
>so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite
>frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and
>from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so
>this may be what the problem is
Where did you find this? What kernel is it in reference to?
I know of an "ne" kernel module (for NE2000 isa cards) and an "ne2k-pci"
module (for NE2000 pci cards) ... but I've never seen a Linux kernel module
with the actual name "ne2000" in any 2.2.x or 2.4.x kernel I've used.
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* Re: IO
2004-01-03 6:24 ` IO Ray Olszewski
@ 2004-01-03 9:32 ` pa3gcu
2004-01-03 9:34 ` IO pa3gcu
2004-01-03 15:39 ` IO Ray Olszewski
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: pa3gcu @ 2004-01-03 9:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ray Olszewski, linux-newbie
On Saturday 03 January 2004 07:24, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 12:26 AM 1/3/2004 -0500, rob.rice wrote:
> >IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure the
> >eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
> >so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite
> >frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and
> >from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so
> >this may be what the problem is
>
> Where did you find this? What kernel is it in reference to?
>
> I know of an "ne" kernel module (for NE2000 isa cards) and an "ne2k-pci"
> module (for NE2000 pci cards) ... but I've never seen a Linux kernel module
> with the actual name "ne2000" in any 2.2.x or 2.4.x kernel I've used.
Good comment Ray, btw the rtl8019 cards i ever used have ioport 0x300 set in
them, so doing the following should detect the card;
modprobe ne io=0x300
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* Re: IO
2004-01-03 9:32 ` IO pa3gcu
@ 2004-01-03 9:34 ` pa3gcu
2004-01-03 15:39 ` IO Ray Olszewski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: pa3gcu @ 2004-01-03 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
BTW i forgot to say, Happy New Year.
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* Re: IO
2004-01-03 9:32 ` IO pa3gcu
2004-01-03 9:34 ` IO pa3gcu
@ 2004-01-03 15:39 ` Ray Olszewski
2004-01-04 8:51 ` IO pa3gcu
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-01-03 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
At 10:32 AM 1/3/2004 +0100, pa3gcu wrote:
>[...]
>
>Good comment Ray, btw the rtl8019 cards i ever used have ioport 0x300 set in
>them, so doing the following should detect the card;
>
>modprobe ne io=0x300
Yeah, RIchard. Every NE2000 I ever got fresh out of the box was set to
IRQ=3, IO=0x300. So this approach is always worth a try.
If that doesn't work for the original poster ...one of his messages seemed
to say that the card's IO address was different under Windows ... one
option for him is simply to walk up the io= line until he finds one that
works. That is, try in order ...
modprobe ne io=0x240
modprobe ne io=0x260
modprobe ne io=0x280
modprobe ne io=0x2a0
... and so on, until he finds the card.
He might also change the PnP OS setting in his BIOS, to try to get the
BIOS to set the card for him. This works for PCi cards, but I **think** it
does NOT work for ISA cards. Still, it won't hurt to try.
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2004-01-03 15:39 ` IO Ray Olszewski
@ 2004-01-04 8:51 ` pa3gcu
2004-01-05 4:31 ` IO Jose Colmenares
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: pa3gcu @ 2004-01-04 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ray Olszewski, linux-newbie
On Saturday 03 January 2004 16:39, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> He might also change the PnP OS setting in his BIOS, to try to get the
> BIOS to set the card for him. This works for PCi cards, but I **think** it
> does NOT work for ISA cards. Still, it won't hurt to try.
He "would need" to resurve the irq for the card in his BIOS, otherwise some
PCI device may grab the IRQ and render the isa card unusable with an IRQ
conflicht.
--
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try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
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Regards Richard
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* Re: IO
2004-01-04 8:51 ` IO pa3gcu
@ 2004-01-05 4:31 ` Jose Colmenares
2004-01-05 15:10 ` IO pa3gcu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Jose Colmenares @ 2004-01-05 4:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
I'm writing this for the archive.
Found another card (similar to the one i had, but this
one works): rtl8029. To use a rtl8019 on linux you
have to set it in jumpless mode. Well, i believed you
did that with a software, so i looked all over, and
found some commands on DOS but where not recognize by
winXP. But when i took it off to install the other, it
had jumpers on it.
Next time, find all the hardware specifications! i
didn't have them because i was using a computer wich
had belonged to someone else and had lost practically
every manual. The rtl8019 sometimes is setup in
extrange io's by windows (i believe someone said
something like that on the list). In order for it to
work on linux you must set it in jumpless mode. So,
there was no way i was going to get it done!
Thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully, sometime
i'll be answering this questions! :)
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* Re: IO
2004-01-05 4:31 ` IO Jose Colmenares
@ 2004-01-05 15:10 ` pa3gcu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: pa3gcu @ 2004-01-05 15:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jose Colmenares, linux-newbie
On Monday 05 January 2004 05:31, Jose Colmenares wrote:
> I'm writing this for the archive.
> Found another card (similar to the one i had, but this
> one works): rtl8029.
It looks to me if you dont understand the differance from ISA and PCI ethernet
cards.
> To use a rtl8019 on linux you
> have to set it in jumpless mode. Well, i believed you
> did that with a software, so i looked all over, and
> found some commands on DOS but where not recognize by
> winXP. But when i took it off to install the other, it
> had jumpers on it.
Correct thats ISA for you.
> Next time, find all the hardware specifications! i
> didn't have them because i was using a computer wich
> had belonged to someone else and had lost practically
> every manual. The rtl8019 sometimes is setup in
> extrange io's by windows (i believe someone said
> something like that on the list). In order for it to
> work on linux you must set it in jumpless mode. So,
> there was no way i was going to get it done!
Well i can assure you they do work.
>
> Thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully, sometime
> i'll be answering this questions! :)
>
I hope that before you do go answering things like the above that you firstly
know where you went wrong yourself.
--
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try to imitate windows programs, then the Windows community
is built on organized crime.
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
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* Re: IO
2004-01-02 23:39 ` IO Jose Colmenares
2004-01-03 5:26 ` IO rob.rice
@ 2004-01-03 6:18 ` Ray Olszewski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-01-03 6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
At 05:39 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Jose Colmenares wrote:
> Found isapnptools.
>did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
>cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
>broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
>have internet on my slack box.
>
>It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
>0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
>modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
>was found with such an adress).
Sorry but, as the saying goes, close only counts with hand granades and
horseshoes ... not error messages and config files. You aren't likely to
get help with interpreting this output until we can see it, not "something
like" it. But see below.
>¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ?
>
>Also, on dmesg, it says:
>isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
>isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.
>
>Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
>windows. It was using this:
>
>Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
> i/o interval 02c0-02df
> Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
>and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device
OK. One possibility, then, is to believe what Windows tells you about the
card and see if it works under Linux. That is, what happens if you run the
command
modprobe ne io=0x2c0
(as I recall, ne can autoprobe for the irq but not the io value)?
Do you get a failure message from the module? If you do not, does "ifconfig
-a" then show an eth0 interface present? If it does, what IRQ does it
report? And can you now assign it an IP address (maybe with "ifup eth0", if
Slackware uses the ifup/ifdown commands that are pretty standard on other
Linux distros)?
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* Re: IO
2004-01-02 19:52 ` IO Jose Colmenares
2004-01-02 21:53 ` IO caszonyi
@ 2004-01-02 22:15 ` Ray Olszewski
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Ray Olszewski @ 2004-01-02 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-newbie
At 01:52 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Jose Colmenares wrote:
> I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
>setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
>but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
>for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
>works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
>know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
>and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
>to my system?
The "easy" way to do this is with the configuration program that came with
(or should have come with) the NIC. Inconveniently for us, these config
programs are almost always MS-DOS-based utilities (or, more rarely, Windows
based). If you can still find a copy of DR-DOS or FreeDOS for download (I
haven't looked for either in a couple of years, but once they were easy to
find), either of them will probably run any DOS-based config program you have.
A bit harder (perhaps; YMMV) is to use the configuration checker/setter for
NE2000 NICa available at http://www.scyld.com/network/ne2k-pci.html .
If you can do neither of these things ... isa NICs usually ship
preconfigured for io=0x300 and irq=0x3 . So you might try disabling (in the
BIOS) your second serial port (which will also be on irq=0x3), booting into
Linux, then trying
modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=0xA
Finally ... older isa NICs (including some NE2000s) get configured with
jumpers rather than a config program, If you have one of them, you'll be
playing blind man's bluff with the jumpers unless you can find
documentation for the card.
If you have occasion to ask more questions about your NIC, please include
in your message as much information about it as you know ... not just that
it uses the RTL8019 chipset.
>I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
>a isa-pnp (wich could be my card),
Nope. lsmod provides a listing of kernel modules, not of cards. This module
is supposed to let kernels do PnP configuration of isa-based PnP hardware
... but I've never actually used it so can't help you with the details.
Since we don't even know if your NIC can be configured through PnP (some
isa NICs can, but many cannot), this is probably the wrong place to
focus for now.
>ifconfig only
>detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,
The command "ifconfig" will list only configured interfaces ... that is,
interfaces that have IP addresses. To see all interfaces, use "ifconfig
-a". But even this will report an eth0 interface only if a kernel module
has found a suitable NIC and created the interface.
>but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
>fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
>figure i need to do so, or not?)
Yes. You need to insmod or modprobe the kernel module(s) for your NIC ...
ne is the right one to modprobe (as I recall, modprobe will notice and load
another module (8190.o,I think) that ne depends on.
Typically with this module, you do need to tell it the ioport and irq of
your NIC, so a proper invocation would resemble this (with the values
appropriate for your system):
modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=0xA
>Thanks.
>By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
>quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
>imposible since i did not ask for the correct
>information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!
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* Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.
@ 2013-12-23 20:12 Ove Karlsen
2014-01-09 16:43 ` IO Ove Karlsen
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From: Ove Karlsen @ 2013-12-23 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: LKML
In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings
are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns
ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A
monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where
Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.
No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe
that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be
harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties
and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not
the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube,
and other places.
Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that
is really what reminded me of it.
Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar
thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone
complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.
It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols.
And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.
This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people
censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans
Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think
1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common
online.
Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as
swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an
idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc
Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.
On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For
instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has
also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite
of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting
naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that
element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is
close to "for the praises of God" is it not.
Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as
unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states,
God created you with the most upright nature.
And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended
by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The
Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think
monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been
established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of
any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.
And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that
is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A
series of random events are white noise, equal probability for any
frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot
be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally
assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many
of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen
on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the
sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes
claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud
whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry,
and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational
idolatry.
Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences,
nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary
creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens
and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills.
And talks about mercy towards the believers.
And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate
in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would
have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even
just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory.
And mutation is not any object of occult power.
And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to
hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.
Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just
doing the same.
Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the
logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And
stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol
of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular,
and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.
Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that
protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is
almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.
And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good
development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.
If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the
conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.
This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to
allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel
code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long
time ago.
I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast
works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it
as simple as possible.
"This program, plugin or function is licenced under
The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.
That means that its source is released
and shall stay available openly,
to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
And that shall apply to developments,
modifications, derivations, and branches.
The licence may not be changed, but modifications
between program, plugin and function may be done,
and used alongside software of other licences.
Peace Be With You."
That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of monotheism.
I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of
re-used components.
Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I
wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword
network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online
technologies.
--
Peace Be With You
Ove Karlsen
http://www.ovekarlsen.com
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