IO

IO

[Jose Colmenares]

 I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
to my system? 
I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
a isa-pnp (wich could be my card), ifconfig only
detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,
but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
figure i need to do so, or not?)
Thanks. 
By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
imposible since i did not ask for the correct
information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!

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Re: IO

[caszonyi]

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004, [iso-8859-1] Jose Colmenares wrote:

>  I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
> setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
> but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
> for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
> works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
> know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
> and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
> to my system?

try to enable pnp in kernel and include in the kernel the driver for
your card (ne2000)

run dmesg and chech in the output if the kernel has detected your card.
If not go to step 2 :-)
compile the support for your card as a module

reboot with your new kernel
use isapnnp to setup your card :-)
(pnpdump > isapnp.conf.sample
copy isapnp.conf.sample in /etc/isapnp.conf
and edit it to suit your needs )
then insmod the module for ne2000 with the parameters for io and int from
the isapnp.conf
and then ifconfig ...


> I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
> a isa-pnp (wich could be my card),

isa-pnp is maybe the module for isa-pnp not for your card
you will have to have a module ne2k i think

>  ifconfig only
> detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,
> but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
> fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
> figure i need to do so, or not?)

ifconfig *doesn't detect*.
ifconfig configures network interfaces and displays information about this
configuration.

man isapnp
man pnpdump
man ifconfig
might help you :-)


> Thanks.
> By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
> quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
> imposible since i did not ask for the correct
> information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!
>

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Re: IO

[Ray Olszewski]

At 01:52 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Jose Colmenares wrote:
>  I posted a message about 5 days ago about troubles
>setting a LAN. Well, i still having figured it out,
>but have detected that i installed the wrong driver
>for my card. I have a isa RTL8019, wich i found out
>works with ne2000 support. But to set it i need to
>know the io and irq adress... ¿how could i find them?
>and also, after this ¿how do i made the proper changes
>to my system?

The "easy" way to do this is with the configuration program that came with 
(or should have come with) the NIC. Inconveniently for us, these config 
programs are almost always MS-DOS-based utilities (or, more rarely, Windows 
based). If you can still find a copy of DR-DOS or FreeDOS for download (I 
haven't looked for either in a couple of years, but once they were easy to 
find), either of them will probably run any DOS-based config program you have.

A bit harder (perhaps; YMMV) is to use the configuration checker/setter for 
NE2000 NICa available at http://www.scyld.com/network/ne2k-pci.html .

If you can do neither of these things ... isa NICs usually ship 
preconfigured for io=0x300 and irq=0x3 . So you might try disabling (in the 
BIOS) your second serial port (which will also be on irq=0x3), booting into 
Linux, then trying

         modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=0xA

Finally ... older isa NICs (including some NE2000s) get configured with 
jumpers rather than a config program, If you have one of them, you'll be 
playing blind man's bluff with the jumpers unless you can find 
documentation for the card.

If you have occasion to ask more questions about your NIC, please include 
in your message as much information about it as you know ... not just that 
it uses the RTL8019 chipset.

>I'm runing slack 9.1. the command lsmod says there is
>a isa-pnp (wich could be my card),

Nope. lsmod provides a listing of kernel modules, not of cards. This module 
is supposed to let kernels do PnP configuration of isa-based PnP hardware 
... but I've never actually used it so can't help you with the details. 
Since we don't even know if your NIC can be configured through PnP (some 
isa NICs can, but many cannot), this is probably the wrong place to 
focus  for now.

>ifconfig only
>detects a loopback (wich i don't really know what is,

The command "ifconfig" will list only configured interfaces ... that is, 
interfaces that have IP addresses. To see all interfaces, use "ifconfig 
-a". But even this will report an eth0 interface only if a kernel module 
has found a suitable NIC and created the interface.

>but is not of any help) and i have no eth0 (wich seems
>fine, since i have not been able to install any, but i
>figure i need to do so, or not?)

Yes. You need to insmod or modprobe the kernel module(s) for your NIC ... 
ne is the right one to modprobe (as I recall, modprobe will notice and load 
another module (8190.o,I think) that ne depends on.

Typically with this module, you do need to tell it the ioport and irq of 
your NIC, so a proper invocation would resemble this (with the values 
appropriate for your system):

         modprobe ne io=0x300 irq=0xA

>Thanks.
>By the way, the answers i got on the last post help
>quite a lot, if not for solving the problem (wich was
>imposible since i did not ask for the correct
>information) for learning a few interesting things. Thanks!





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IO

[Jose Colmenares]

 Found isapnptools. 
did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
have internet on my slack box. 

It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
was found with such an adress).

¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ? 

Also, on dmesg, it says:
isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.

Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
windows. It was using this: 

Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
	i/o interval 02c0-02df
        Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device



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Re: IO

[rob.rice]

IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure 
the eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite 
frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and 
from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so 
this may be what the problem is


Jose Colmenares wrote:
>  Found isapnptools. 
> did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
> cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
> broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
> have internet on my slack box. 
> 
> It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
> 0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
> modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
> was found with such an adress).
> 
> ¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ? 
> 
> Also, on dmesg, it says:
> isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
> isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.
> 
> Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
> windows. It was using this: 
> 
> Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
> 	i/o interval 02c0-02df
>         Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
> and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IO

[Ray Olszewski]

At 05:39 PM 1/2/2004 -0600, Jose Colmenares wrote:
>  Found isapnptools.
>did pnpdump, but don't understand what is says! I
>cannot copy isapnp.conf.sample here because my floppy
>broke down (just to add more fun) and or course don't
>have internet on my slack box.
>
>It does say something like: minimum IO base adress
>0x0280, maximun IO base adress 0x03e0. Tried both on
>modprobe, none worked (when I see the syslog no card
>was found with such an adress).

Sorry but, as the saying goes, close only counts with hand granades and 
horseshoes ... not error messages and config files. You aren't likely to 
get help with interpreting this output until we can see it, not "something 
like" it. But see below.

>¿how do i know how to edit isapnp.conf.... ?
>
>Also, on dmesg, it says:
>isapnp: Card 'Genius LAN GE2000III Series Card'
>isapnp: 1 plug & play card detected total.
>
>Also, i wrote down the following before formatting
>windows. It was using this:
>
>Raltek rtl8019 or compatible
>         i/o interval 02c0-02df
>         Memory interval 000DC000-000DFFFF
>and was using a NE2000.sys file for the device

OK. One possibility, then, is to believe what Windows tells you about the 
card and see if it works under Linux. That is, what happens if you run the 
command

         modprobe ne io=0x2c0

(as I recall, ne can autoprobe for the irq but not the io value)?

Do you get a failure message from the module? If you do not, does "ifconfig 
-a" then show an eth0 interface present? If it does, what IRQ does it 
report? And can you now assign it an IP address (maybe with "ifup eth0", if 
Slackware uses the ifup/ifdown commands that are pretty standard on other 
Linux distros)?





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Re: IO

[Ray Olszewski]

At 12:26 AM 1/3/2004 -0500, rob.rice wrote:
>IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure the 
>eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
>so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite 
>frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and 
>from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so 
>this may be what the problem is

Where did you find this? What kernel is it in reference to?

I know of an "ne" kernel module (for NE2000 isa cards) and an "ne2k-pci" 
module (for NE2000 pci cards) ... but I've never seen a Linux kernel module 
with the actual name "ne2000" in any 2.2.x or 2.4.x kernel I've used.



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Re: IO

[pa3gcu]

On Saturday 03 January 2004 07:24, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 12:26 AM 1/3/2004 -0500, rob.rice wrote:
> >IF this card was ever installed by windows you may need to reconfigure the
> >eeproms in the card windows has a habit of rewriting the addresses
> >so that olny windblows can use the card I had to do this with an asanite
> >frindly net card what program you use demends on what card you have and
> >from what I foung on google.com/linux ne2000 is the driver you need so
> >this may be what the problem is
>
> Where did you find this? What kernel is it in reference to?
>
> I know of an "ne" kernel module (for NE2000 isa cards) and an "ne2k-pci"
> module (for NE2000 pci cards) ... but I've never seen a Linux kernel module
> with the actual name "ne2000" in any 2.2.x or 2.4.x kernel I've used.


Good comment Ray, btw the rtl8019 cards i ever used have ioport 0x300 set in 
them, so doing the following should detect the card;

modprobe ne io=0x300

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Regards Richard
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Re: IO

[pa3gcu]

BTW i forgot to say, Happy New Year.

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Re: IO

[Ray Olszewski]

At 10:32 AM 1/3/2004 +0100, pa3gcu wrote:
>[...]
>
>Good comment Ray, btw the rtl8019 cards i ever used have ioport 0x300 set in
>them, so doing the following should detect the card;
>
>modprobe ne io=0x300

Yeah, RIchard. Every NE2000 I ever got fresh out of the box was set to 
IRQ=3, IO=0x300. So this approach is always worth a try.

If that doesn't work for the original poster ...one of his messages seemed 
to say that the card's IO address was different under Windows ... one 
option for him is simply to walk up the io= line until he finds one that 
works. That is, try in order ...

         modprobe ne io=0x240
         modprobe ne io=0x260
         modprobe ne io=0x280
         modprobe ne io=0x2a0

... and so on, until he finds the card.

He might also change the PnP  OS setting in his BIOS, to try to get the 
BIOS to set the card for him. This works for PCi cards, but I **think** it 
does NOT work for ISA cards. Still, it won't hurt to try.




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Re: IO

[pa3gcu]

On Saturday 03 January 2004 16:39, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> He might also change the PnP  OS setting in his BIOS, to try to get the
> BIOS to set the card for him. This works for PCi cards, but I **think** it
> does NOT work for ISA cards. Still, it won't hurt to try.

He "would need" to resurve the irq for the card in his BIOS, otherwise some 
PCI device may grab the IRQ and render the isa card unusable with an IRQ 
conflicht.

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Re: IO

[Jose Colmenares]

 I'm writing this for the archive.
Found another card (similar to the one i had, but this
one works): rtl8029. To use a rtl8019 on linux you
have to set it in jumpless mode. Well, i believed you
did that with a software, so i looked all over, and
found some commands on DOS but where not recognize by
winXP. But when i took it off to install the other, it
had jumpers on it. 
Next time, find all the hardware specifications! i
didn't have them because i was using a computer wich
had belonged to someone else and had lost practically
every manual. The rtl8019 sometimes is setup in
extrange io's by windows (i believe someone said
something like that on the list). In order for it to
work on linux you must set it in jumpless mode. So,
there was no way i was going to get it done!

Thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully, sometime
i'll be answering this questions! :)



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Re: IO

[pa3gcu]

On Monday 05 January 2004 05:31, Jose Colmenares wrote:
>  I'm writing this for the archive.
> Found another card (similar to the one i had, but this
> one works): rtl8029.

It looks to me if you dont understand the differance from ISA and PCI ethernet 
cards.

> To use a rtl8019 on linux you
> have to set it in jumpless mode. Well, i believed you
> did that with a software, so i looked all over, and
> found some commands on DOS but where not recognize by
> winXP. But when i took it off to install the other, it
> had jumpers on it.

Correct thats ISA for you.

> Next time, find all the hardware specifications! i
> didn't have them because i was using a computer wich
> had belonged to someone else and had lost practically
> every manual. The rtl8019 sometimes is setup in
> extrange io's by windows (i believe someone said
> something like that on the list). In order for it to
> work on linux you must set it in jumpless mode. So,
> there was no way i was going to get it done!

Well i can assure you they do work.

>
> Thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully, sometime
> i'll be answering this questions! :)
>

I hope that before you do go answering things like the above that you firstly 
know where you went wrong yourself.

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Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Ove Karlsen]

In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings 
are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns 
ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A 
monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where 
Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.

No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe 
that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be 
harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties 
and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not 
the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube, 
and other places.

Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that 
is really what reminded me of it.

Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar 
thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone 
complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.

It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols. 
And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.

This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people 
censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans 
Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think 
1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common 
online.

Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as 
swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an 
idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc

Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.

On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For 
instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has 
also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite 
of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting 
naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that 
element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is 
close to "for the praises of God" is it not.

Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as 
unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states, 
God created you with the most upright nature.

And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended 
by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The 
Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think 
monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been 
established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of 
any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.

And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that 
is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A 
series of random events are white noise,  equal probability for any 
frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot 
be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally 
assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many 
of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen 
on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the 
sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes 
claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud 
whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry, 
and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational 
idolatry.

Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences, 
nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary 
creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens 
and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills. 
And talks about mercy towards the believers.

And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate 
in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would 
have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even 
just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory. 
And mutation is not any object of occult power.

And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to 
hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.

Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just 
doing the same.

Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the 
logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And 
stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol 
of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular, 
and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.

Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that 
protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is 
almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.

And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good 
development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.

If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the 
conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.

This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to 
allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel 
code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long 
time ago.

I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast 
works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it 
as simple as possible.

"This program, plugin or function is licenced under
The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.

That means that its source is released
and shall stay available openly,
to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
And that shall apply to developments,
modifications, derivations, and branches.

The licence may not be changed, but modifications
between program, plugin and function may be done,
and used alongside software of other licences.

Peace Be With You."

That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of monotheism.

I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of 
re-used components.

Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I 
wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword 
network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online 
technologies.

-- 
Peace Be With You
Ove Karlsen
http://www.ovekarlsen.com

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Liam Lindholm]

Mr. Karlsen,

I find your response to my initial email quite interesting, but do not
quite understand it. My mind is very sluggish here in Sweden where it
is very, very cold. Sluggish like a cluster of 386s running Linux on a
kitchen table in someone's backwoods shack.

In case you didn't see it, here is the presentation Mr. Stallman gave
about the Free Software Foundation's "Say LiGNUx" campaign:
http://imgur.com/a/beY7E

Mr. Stallman clearly needs a break from promoting an increasingly
irrelevant software platform. In my first email, I suggested that we
ban him from LKML or asking the Linux Foundation to issue a press
release distancing themselves from RMS, GNU, and the Free
Software Foundation.

So far, to the best of my knowledge, none of those suggestions have
been acted upon.

If you do not mind, Mr. Karlsen, please elaborate. Do you agree with
me that calling Linux as LiGNUx is destructive and is without gains?
Or do you agree with Richard M. Stallman and think we should call
Linux as LiGNUx? How do you think about this, Mr. Karlsen?

Happy New Year.

Liam Oskar Lindholm,
Linux Kernel Hacker

On 12/23/13, Ove Karlsen <mail@ovekarlsen.com> wrote:
> In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings
> are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns
> ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A
> monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where
> Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.
>
> No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe
> that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be
> harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties
> and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not
> the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube,
> and other places.
>
> Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that
> is really what reminded me of it.
>
> Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar
> thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone
> complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.
>
> It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols.
> And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.
>
> This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people
> censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans
> Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think
> 1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common
> online.
>
> Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as
> swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an
> idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc
>
> Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.
>
> On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For
> instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has
> also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite
> of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting
> naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that
> element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is
> close to "for the praises of God" is it not.
>
> Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
> In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
> In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
> In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as
> unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states,
> God created you with the most upright nature.
>
> And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended
> by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The
> Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think
> monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been
> established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of
> any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.
>
> And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that
> is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A
> series of random events are white noise,  equal probability for any
> frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot
> be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally
> assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many
> of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen
> on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the
> sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes
> claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud
> whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry,
> and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational
> idolatry.
>
> Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences,
> nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary
> creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens
> and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills.
> And talks about mercy towards the believers.
>
> And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate
> in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would
> have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even
> just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory.
> And mutation is not any object of occult power.
>
> And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to
> hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.
>
> Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just
> doing the same.
>
> Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the
> logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And
> stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol
> of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular,
> and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.
>
> Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that
> protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is
> almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.
>
> And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good
> development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.
>
> If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the
> conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.
>
> This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to
> allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel
> code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long
> time ago.
>
> I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast
> works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it
> as simple as possible.
>
> "This program, plugin or function is licenced under
> The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.
>
> That means that its source is released
> and shall stay available openly,
> to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
> And that shall apply to developments,
> modifications, derivations, and branches.
>
> The licence may not be changed, but modifications
> between program, plugin and function may be done,
> and used alongside software of other licences.
>
> Peace Be With You."
>
> That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of
> monotheism.
>
> I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of
> re-used components.
>
> Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I
> wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword
> network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online
> technologies.
>
> --
> Peace Be With You
> Ove Karlsen
> http://www.ovekarlsen.com
> --
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Richard Dunn]

In case you missed it, Phoronix covered your original email.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1MTI

On 1/7/14, Liam Lindholm <liam.oskar.lindholm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr. Karlsen,
>
> I find your response to my initial email quite interesting, but do not
> quite understand it. My mind is very sluggish here in Sweden where it
> is very, very cold. Sluggish like a cluster of 386s running Linux on a
> kitchen table in someone's backwoods shack.
>
> In case you didn't see it, here is the presentation Mr. Stallman gave
> about the Free Software Foundation's "Say LiGNUx" campaign:
> http://imgur.com/a/beY7E
>
> Mr. Stallman clearly needs a break from promoting an increasingly
> irrelevant software platform. In my first email, I suggested that we
> ban him from LKML or asking the Linux Foundation to issue a press
> release distancing themselves from RMS, GNU, and the Free
> Software Foundation.
>
> So far, to the best of my knowledge, none of those suggestions have
> been acted upon.
>
> If you do not mind, Mr. Karlsen, please elaborate. Do you agree with
> me that calling Linux as LiGNUx is destructive and is without gains?
> Or do you agree with Richard M. Stallman and think we should call
> Linux as LiGNUx? How do you think about this, Mr. Karlsen?
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> Liam Oskar Lindholm,
> Linux Kernel Hacker
>
> On 12/23/13, Ove Karlsen <mail@ovekarlsen.com> wrote:
>> In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings
>> are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns
>> ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A
>> monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where
>> Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.
>>
>> No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe
>> that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be
>> harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties
>> and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not
>> the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube,
>> and other places.
>>
>> Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that
>> is really what reminded me of it.
>>
>> Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar
>> thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone
>> complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.
>>
>> It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols.
>> And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.
>>
>> This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people
>> censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans
>> Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think
>> 1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common
>> online.
>>
>> Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as
>> swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an
>> idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc
>>
>> Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.
>>
>> On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For
>> instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has
>> also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite
>> of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting
>> naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that
>> element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is
>> close to "for the praises of God" is it not.
>>
>> Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
>> In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
>> In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
>> In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as
>> unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states,
>> God created you with the most upright nature.
>>
>> And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended
>> by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The
>> Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think
>> monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been
>> established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of
>> any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.
>>
>> And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that
>> is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A
>> series of random events are white noise,  equal probability for any
>> frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot
>> be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally
>> assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many
>> of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen
>> on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the
>> sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes
>> claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud
>> whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry,
>> and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational
>> idolatry.
>>
>> Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences,
>> nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary
>> creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens
>> and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills.
>> And talks about mercy towards the believers.
>>
>> And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate
>> in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would
>> have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even
>> just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory.
>> And mutation is not any object of occult power.
>>
>> And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to
>> hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.
>>
>> Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just
>> doing the same.
>>
>> Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the
>> logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And
>> stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol
>> of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular,
>> and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.
>>
>> Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that
>> protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is
>> almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.
>>
>> And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good
>> development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.
>>
>> If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the
>> conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.
>>
>> This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to
>> allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel
>> code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long
>> time ago.
>>
>> I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast
>> works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it
>> as simple as possible.
>>
>> "This program, plugin or function is licenced under
>> The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.
>>
>> That means that its source is released
>> and shall stay available openly,
>> to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
>> And that shall apply to developments,
>> modifications, derivations, and branches.
>>
>> The licence may not be changed, but modifications
>> between program, plugin and function may be done,
>> and used alongside software of other licences.
>>
>> Peace Be With You."
>>
>> That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of
>> monotheism.
>>
>> I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of
>> re-used components.
>>
>> Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I
>> wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword
>> network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online
>> technologies.
>>
>> --
>> Peace Be With You
>> Ove Karlsen
>> http://www.ovekarlsen.com
>> --
>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel"
>> in
>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
>> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
>> Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/
>>
> --
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>

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Ove Karlsen]

On 1/7/2014 9:52 PM, Richard Dunn wrote:
> In case you missed it, Phoronix covered your original email.
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1MTI

Phoronix is not a serious newsplace.

I did think about the problem some more.

Maybe the whole Microkernel debate is an ego-issue too, really of 
control of information.

What would an additional JSR do.

And then I decide to read "operating systems: design and implementation" 
and what do I find:

https://www.google.no/search?q=operating+systems+design+and+implementation&rlz=1C1SAVU_enNO552NO555&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mWjMUoawK870yAOD14DoDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=962#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=3Xxz9iSmxL5PkM%3A%3BwJyiNjvjxISczM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.walmartimages.com%252Fi%252Fp%252F09%252F78%252F01%252F31%252F42%252F0978013142938_500X500.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.walmart.com%252Fip%252FOperating-Systems-Design-and-Implementation%252F4323094%3B500%3B500

The book has a picture of a mushroom!

> On 1/7/14, Liam Lindholm <liam.oskar.lindholm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mr. Karlsen,
>>
>> I find your response to my initial email quite interesting, but do not
>> quite understand it. My mind is very sluggish here in Sweden where it
>> is very, very cold. Sluggish like a cluster of 386s running Linux on a
>> kitchen table in someone's backwoods shack.
>>
>> In case you didn't see it, here is the presentation Mr. Stallman gave
>> about the Free Software Foundation's "Say LiGNUx" campaign:
>> http://imgur.com/a/beY7E
>>
>> Mr. Stallman clearly needs a break from promoting an increasingly
>> irrelevant software platform. In my first email, I suggested that we
>> ban him from LKML or asking the Linux Foundation to issue a press
>> release distancing themselves from RMS, GNU, and the Free
>> Software Foundation.
>>
>> So far, to the best of my knowledge, none of those suggestions have
>> been acted upon.
>>
>> If you do not mind, Mr. Karlsen, please elaborate. Do you agree with
>> me that calling Linux as LiGNUx is destructive and is without gains?
>> Or do you agree with Richard M. Stallman and think we should call
>> Linux as LiGNUx? How do you think about this, Mr. Karlsen?
>>
>> Happy New Year.
>>
>> Liam Oskar Lindholm,
>> Linux Kernel Hacker
>>
>> On 12/23/13, Ove Karlsen <mail@ovekarlsen.com> wrote:
>>> In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings
>>> are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns
>>> ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A
>>> monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where
>>> Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.
>>>
>>> No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe
>>> that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be
>>> harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties
>>> and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not
>>> the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube,
>>> and other places.
>>>
>>> Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that
>>> is really what reminded me of it.
>>>
>>> Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar
>>> thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone
>>> complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.
>>>
>>> It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols.
>>> And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.
>>>
>>> This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people
>>> censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans
>>> Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think
>>> 1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common
>>> online.
>>>
>>> Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as
>>> swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an
>>> idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc
>>>
>>> Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.
>>>
>>> On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For
>>> instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has
>>> also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite
>>> of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting
>>> naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that
>>> element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is
>>> close to "for the praises of God" is it not.
>>>
>>> Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
>>> In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
>>> In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
>>> In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as
>>> unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states,
>>> God created you with the most upright nature.
>>>
>>> And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended
>>> by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The
>>> Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think
>>> monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been
>>> established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of
>>> any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.
>>>
>>> And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that
>>> is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A
>>> series of random events are white noise,  equal probability for any
>>> frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot
>>> be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally
>>> assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many
>>> of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen
>>> on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the
>>> sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes
>>> claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud
>>> whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry,
>>> and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational
>>> idolatry.
>>>
>>> Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences,
>>> nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary
>>> creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens
>>> and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills.
>>> And talks about mercy towards the believers.
>>>
>>> And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate
>>> in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would
>>> have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even
>>> just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory.
>>> And mutation is not any object of occult power.
>>>
>>> And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to
>>> hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.
>>>
>>> Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just
>>> doing the same.
>>>
>>> Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the
>>> logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And
>>> stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol
>>> of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular,
>>> and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.
>>>
>>> Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that
>>> protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is
>>> almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.
>>>
>>> And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good
>>> development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.
>>>
>>> If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the
>>> conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.
>>>
>>> This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to
>>> allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel
>>> code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long
>>> time ago.
>>>
>>> I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast
>>> works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it
>>> as simple as possible.
>>>
>>> "This program, plugin or function is licenced under
>>> The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.
>>>
>>> That means that its source is released
>>> and shall stay available openly,
>>> to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
>>> And that shall apply to developments,
>>> modifications, derivations, and branches.
>>>
>>> The licence may not be changed, but modifications
>>> between program, plugin and function may be done,
>>> and used alongside software of other licences.
>>>
>>> Peace Be With You."
>>>
>>> That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of
>>> monotheism.
>>>
>>> I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of
>>> re-used components.
>>>
>>> Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I
>>> wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword
>>> network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online
>>> technologies.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace Be With You
>>> Ove Karlsen
>>> http://www.ovekarlsen.com
>>> --
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Peace Be With You
Ove Karlsen,
www.ovekarlsen.com

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Ove Karlsen]

Just to be clear, no idolatry. At all.

Anyways I am just going to use windows here, and maybe even get an E5 
mac. It has logic audio, which I think is perfectly fine.

I am almost nervous to contribute to this, seeing as much obscurity as 
it is. People will have to choose a solution good for them. If it makes 
sense. Not for some reason of idolatry, or slaving away for nothing.

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Ove Karlsen]

And.. actually in commercial constructs one is also abused, but atleast 
one gets money. In open-source, or particulary Stallman idolaters, one 
is only abused.

No limiter-awards, where technical excellence is recognized, because 
"the algorithm does this and that, and this is optimal". None of that.

Just - NOT GPL? WE ARE GONNA ABUSE YOU DOOD.

This is as I am trying to explain common for idolatry, and not GPL ofcourse.

Open-source seemed very interesting at one point. Atleast small plugins 
like mine, are nice to have as open-source. But already only after a few 
years, and gone through stages, and understood so many things many 
people are talking about, and the complains about linux-circle behaviour.

It has ofcourse nothing to do with being free. ;)

Hey, I don´t care. If God does not want, that is fine. I can drop it.

Peace Be With You!

Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

[Ove Karlsen]

I am realizing that Linux-brats are vere very much like abusive mushroom 
users aren´t they. I did ressearch on this, and that is where I have 
seen that behaviour before. Obviously only having them in the 
environment is influental, as I doubt they all do mushrooms.

This will be included on my 
http://ovekarlsen.com/Blog/psychiatry-refuted/ refuted post. That is the 
root of the problem.

Peace Be With You.

IO

[Ove Karlsen]

I feel better thinking of a commercial OS. A completely general 
low-jitter OS, that considers enthusiast concerns, no tweak-apps should 
be necessary. That ofcourse respects monotheist values, and maybe what 
comes pre-installed is also considered for minimal abuse?

IO by Beneficial Software. CEO: Ove Karlsen. :)

Now to get funding...                                   do you have a 
tenner?

If Linus is not such a Unix fanboy, and had some sense, that is what he 
should do. I think he is the one a lot of people listen to in Linux 
circles, and he could probably pull something like that off.

Peace Be With You.

Andrew Tanenbaum

[Ove Karlsen]

PS: Andrew Tanenbaums book-covers seem to contain symbolism related to 
linux-people. It truly makes me understand how mad LSD can be, or mushrooms.

Again, standard consciousness is above such things. It is called 
"subliminal art" is the west, and known as "the whispers of Satan" in 
the east.

Peace Be With You.

To people sending me replies.

[Ove Karlsen]

There is absolutely no need to send me replies, disagreeing. It is 
completely irrelevant.

See no evil hear no evil, is what some of these repliers seem to follow. 
Completely pathetic and a good example of what kind of fantasyworld the 
linux-environment is. A fantasyworld where such response are deemed 
relevant, rather than acceptance of completely CLEAR facts and highly 
questionable morality. As backward as the whole movement, and the level 
of intelligence in this is feeble. My experienced in this field, can 
only for any sensible person mean, to leave all involvement with Linux.

I updated my post: 
http://ovekarlsen.com/Blog/turning-ubuntu-12-04-into-a-low-jitter-os/

The abuse and lack of rationality, can only be blamed for this. And 
these posess no higher intelligence, as is only a myth about 
linux-circles, and indeed many people here are instead blocking 
intelligent development. As any facist construct.

"A few years after I first did this low-jitter config, John Carmack said 
Doom 3 was still taxing on current systems, and struggled to keep up 60 
fps.. Doom 3, which is a jitter-sensitive game, since it does 3 passes 
pr. frame with openGL , will also play perfectly, and with accurate 
timing, on the same machine with a Nvidia GTX 280 at 72fps (72fps x 3 = 
216fps)."

What are you waiting for? Are you waiting for the fairie-hand of Linus 
to approve, lest abuse? Lest keep up appearances that this has not 
happened, you needed someone to tighten things up, and maybe your fanboy 
is not as good as the myth would say? Most replies do not even consider 
the facts here. The pure and technical true and valid facts. Which 
supposedly the list is all about. Instead censor, and abuse, and 
completely irrational posting from far away in LSD-cult fantasyland.

"Linux lacks a professional environment though, something one notices 
quite fast. There is a lot of smaller apps on it, and more or less 
obscure software, but it does not seem to have any mainstream adoption, 
or things one has come to expect from mainstream OSs. In the audio 
environment, I felt much like it was stuck in a time of soundblasters, 
but the ideologically driven linux-environment seems blind to this. But 
it was fun playing “Doom 3″, and Linux-based steam consoles are now 
being made.

And this belongs in this article: I do not agree with the ideology in 
Linux-circles, and would really prefer a commercial OS, that is general, 
and low-jitter. Unix is ofcourse really outdated, and purely from a 
technical point of view, I do not at all disagree with microkernels 
though, it depends on how one implements them. Or hybrid, but reducing 
the amount of work on the engineer, and patchmanagement, and 
implementing the most efficient version of that, seems sensible to me. 
And keep in mind that even a 1mhz C64 could do low-jitter low latency 
audio/video. And TRON-OS people talked about 200uS latency in the same 
decade. Systems that fail to do this, is simply due to paradigm. And I 
ofcourse disagree with Stallman-idolatry, slaving away for some 
LSD-fantasy ideology, lustcultivation and abusive idolaters, semantic 
games or similar social retardation anywhere. And is neither a windows 
fanboy, or mac, or unix/linux, but see these systems from a general 
viewpoint, and that they move data around.

Peace Be With You.

Note: A good example of poor patch management is Phoronix testing, and 
Linus acting, to remove many patches. Phoronix does not understand what 
jitter is, and so in his tests, that is not even considered. This is 
simply random behaviour. 1000hz in the kernel is completely against low 
jitter aswell, and there is a 10ms filter in fair.c that seems quite 
random aswell. When I asked some known people in linux-circles about 
low-jitter, they did not know what would give the least, and would make 
wrong assumptions here. Again random. Nobody in the audio-environment 
understood the level of my audio-dsp either. Coupling this to abusive 
behaviour, and even censorship of criticism of Stallman, makes a very 
odd mythologically and ideologically driven slavery, with what is 
probably a LSD-hippie in Stallman, as founder of ideology, and with 
unix-kernel teachings root in Tanenbaum, another hallucinogen-user. 
(Mushroom picture on Operating Systems: Design and Implementation). With 
Linux mainstream use on gaming-boxes, Valve another faction of 
hallucinogen-use, has hallucinogenic art is in many of their games. 
“Half-Life” really meaning this regressed animal-state, of animal-idols 
and animal-behaviour. The facists in these games, really idols, such as 
the suitcase man, etc. Shuttleworth is also known for his lusttalk, in 
conflict with any decent intelligent man, has said that he wanted 
“ultrasmooth graphics”, but I did not get any response when sending this 
kernel, and info to him, that realizes this. Ubuntu still comes with a 
high-jitter kernel. Instead he later initiated “Mir”, which again seems 
like more of the same randomness. With many contributors to Ubuntu 
ofcourse, doing this purely for ideological reasons, and get nothing, 
other than the abusive random environment."

That is my final word in that. Linux - just another ideologically driven 
myth, as many. If engineers here had some sense, they would make a 
completely general low-jitter commercial OS instead, with considerations 
to minimal-abuse for the pre-installed components.

After all Linux is only in 2013, where for instance, TRON OS was in the 
80s. Ideological bizarre idiocy, with central people using 
hallucinogens. Obviously in fantasyland. One could aswell skip back to 
TRON OS, and continue there, and it would be just as much "progress".

Peace Be With You.

Linus - Firebreathing dragon idol of Linux: The Lost Computer Idealism.

[Ove Karlsen]

http://ovekarlsen.com/Blog/wp-content/uploads/oss7.jpg

This is also a symbolic LSD image. Obviously "Unix" is still stuck in 
the 70s for many, and not much has happened since.

But this is how they view Linux. And it carries symbolism of Linus.

While all LSD-symbolism is demonic, this is actually quite right.

Ofcourse a tone of abuse, owns the linux-environment, when The Leader, 
is abusive.

With the GNU thought police, and the "everything for the commune", it is 
ofcourse like many facist constructs in the world, under their idol. And 
idolatry is of Satan.

Ironically many here have then become or support what abused them in 
their schoolyears, and what abuses intelligent people everywhere.

PBWY.