cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

[Georg Müller]

Hi,

I have a Pentium 4M at 1.8GHz.
With 2.6.0 it was possible to slow down my CPU in several steps down to 
200MHz via cpufreq.
With 2.6.2 I can only switch between 1.2 and 1.8GHz (as it was with 2.4 
too).

Is this change wanted?

Georg Müller

Re: cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

[Måns Rullgård]

Georg Müller <georgmueller@gmx.net> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have a Pentium 4M at 1.8GHz.
> With 2.6.0 it was possible to slow down my CPU in several steps down
> to 200MHz via cpufreq.
> With 2.6.2 I can only switch between 1.2 and 1.8GHz (as it was with
> 2.4 too).

Which cpufreq module are you using?  With p4-clockmod I get lots of
choices, with acpi only the two you mentioned.

-- 
Måns Rullgård
mru@kth.se

Re: cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

[Georg Müller]

Måns Rullgård wrote:
> Which cpufreq module are you using?  With p4-clockmod I get lots of
> choices, with acpi only the two you mentioned.
> 

Ok, that works. With P4 clockmod only there are the freqs I wanted :-)

Thx,
Georg Müller

Re: cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

[Dumitru Ciobarcianu]

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On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 16:33 +0100, Georg Müller wrote:
> Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > Which cpufreq module are you using?  With p4-clockmod I get lots of
> > choices, with acpi only the two you mentioned.
> > 
> 
> Ok, that works. With P4 clockmod only there are the freqs I wanted :-)

But I don't know it's having the effect you desire... :)

By monitoring /proc/acpi/battery/*/state ("present rate" key) I found
that by using p4-clockmod at the lovest rate the processor permits, it's
actually using more energy than by using speedstep_ich (only two levels
of frequency).

I don't know if this is a bug of p4-clockmod or a hw bug in my machine
though... can you please check in your machine?

-- 
Cioby


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Re: cpufreq - less possible freqs with 2.6.2 and P4M

[Bruno Ducrot]

On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 06:12:15PM +0200, Dumitru Ciobarcianu wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 16:33 +0100, Georg M??ller wrote:
> > M??ns Rullg??rd wrote:
> > > Which cpufreq module are you using?  With p4-clockmod I get lots of
> > > choices, with acpi only the two you mentioned.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, that works. With P4 clockmod only there are the freqs I wanted :-)
> 
> But I don't know it's having the effect you desire... :)
> 
> By monitoring /proc/acpi/battery/*/state ("present rate" key) I found
> that by using p4-clockmod at the lovest rate the processor permits, it's
> actually using more energy than by using speedstep_ich (only two levels
> of frequency).
> 
> I don't know if this is a bug of p4-clockmod or a hw bug in my machine
> though... can you please check in your machine?

p4-clockmod offer only the possibility to throtte the cpu (and therefore
you can get a kind of frequency setting when you change the duty cycle),
but it do not scale voltage for the processor, whereas speedstep-ich will
offer you the possibility to scale voltage and frequency by changing
directly the core multiplier.

In fact, if you have at least power control for the processor via ACPI
(look into /proc/acpi/processor/????/power), and your machine support
at least the power state C2, and if you are using the p4-clockmod,
or anything that do throttle the processor, you reduce the windows time
when the processor can enter at least this C2 power state, and this may
actually consume *more* power than you would expect, especially if the
system is mostly idle.

Cheers,

-- 
Bruno Ducrot

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