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From: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
	akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:14:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40927B6C.9020600@slaphack.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <408E9F42.2080804@namesys.com>

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| Christoph Hellwig wrote:
|
|>> Did you notice that V4 blows XFS and ReiserFS V3 away in
|>> benchmarks?    That is what I have been doing for 3 years....
|>>
|>> See www.namesys.com for details.
|>>
|>
|>
|> see www.microsoft.com why Windows is much better than Linux.  Yeah,
|> thanks.
|>
|>
| Ask the users whether their laptops, etc.,  seem to go a lot faster with
| V4.  They seem to be pretty happy with it.

With the speed, yes.  With the stability, no.  I use it on my desktop
now, as that's for games, and use xfs on cryptoloop for my laptop.  I
hope to replace that with reiser4 and some crypto plugin someday.  I'll
follow this up with the specific problems in a bit.

|
| V4 fixed all of V3's serious performance flaws, and totally obsoletes
| it.    I am very happy with it.
|

In fact, regarding the whole "innovation" thing, Microsoft and others
have occasionally announced that they were going to create a filesystem
which could act as a database (or the other way around), and generally
introduce some of the features reiser4 has solid by now.

Every time I've seen such a thing announced, it flops later.  It becomes
a userland project, or an abandoned project, and definitely nowhere near
as usable.  Reiser4, however, seems to already have that kind of
functionality -- it's efficient at storing lots of tiny flat text files,
and searching them randomly.

I haven't run any benchmarks against "real" databases like mysql, but if
we want to talk about what V4 obsoletes, it obsoletes things which
haven't even been developed/released yet (WinFS on Longhorn).
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-30 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-23 19:54 [PATCH] reiserfs v3 patches for 2.6.6-rc2 Chris Mason
2004-04-26 16:59 ` I oppose Chris and Jeff's patch to add an unnecessary additional namespace to ReiserFS Hans Reiser
2004-04-26 17:31   ` Chris Mason
2004-04-26 18:15     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-26 19:12       ` Mark Hahn
2004-04-26 19:13       ` Chris Mason
2004-04-26 20:40         ` Matthias Andree
2004-04-26 22:20           ` Chris Wright
2004-04-26 23:20           ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-27 17:35           ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-27 18:00       ` mjt
2004-04-27 18:00         ` Markus   Törnqvist
2004-04-26 19:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-04-27 17:29     ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-27 17:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-04-27 17:58         ` Hans Reiser
2004-04-27 18:04           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-04-28  0:10             ` Stefan Traby
2004-04-28  8:22             ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-04-28  9:44               ` mjt
2004-04-28 12:45                 ` Chris Mason
2004-04-29 11:35                   ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-04-28 16:55               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-27 18:07           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-28  5:51           ` Meelis Roos
2004-04-30 16:14           ` David Masover [this message]
2004-05-07 17:29             ` Lamont R. Peterson
2004-05-10 15:01               ` Hans Reiser
2004-05-02  4:14           ` Rob Landley
2004-04-26 19:56   ` Matt H.
2004-05-11 20:00 ` [PATCH] reiserfs v3 patches for 2.6.6-rc2 Mike Benoit
2004-05-11 21:08   ` Chris Mason

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