we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

we are going to use our fastman logo from our web page plus reiser4 in 
letters, but we need some slogan underneath it.

Ideas?

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Marcel Hilzinger]

2004. június 23. 21.38 dátummal Hans Reiser ezt írta:
> we are going to use our fastman logo from our web page plus reiser4 in
> letters, but we need some slogan underneath it.
>
What about:

The Living Filesystem

(as there are dancing trees, wandering logs, and development is really 
alive :-)

-- 
Üdvözlettel -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Marcel Hilzinger

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Marcel Hilzinger wrote:

>2004. június 23. 21.38 dátummal Hans Reiser ezt írta:
>  
>
>>we are going to use our fastman logo from our web page plus reiser4 in
>>letters, but we need some slogan underneath it.
>>
>>    
>>
>What about:
>
>The Living Filesystem
>
>(as there are dancing trees, wandering logs, and development is really 
>alive :-)
>
>  
>
I suggested the Atomic Filesystem, but Mom pointed out that it added an 
additional metaphor to the fastman graphic.  I am still thinking about 
whether she is right.

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Burnes, James]

How about,

"Plug-in To Reiser4!"


jim burnes
security engineer
great-west, denver
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Reiser [mailto:reiser@namesys.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:07 PM
> To: Marcel Hilzinger
> Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
> Subject: Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt
> 
> Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> 
> >2004. június 23. 21.38 dátummal Hans Reiser ezt írta:
> >
> >
> >>we are going to use our fastman logo from our web page plus reiser4 in
> >>letters, but we need some slogan underneath it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >What about:
> >
> >The Living Filesystem
> >
> >(as there are dancing trees, wandering logs, and development is really
> >alive :-)
> >
> >
> >
> I suggested the Atomic Filesystem, but Mom pointed out that it added an
> additional metaphor to the fastman graphic.  I am still thinking about
> whether she is right.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Clifford Beshers]

Hans Reiser wrote:

> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?


Everything you always wanted in a filesystem, but were afraid to pay for.

Cliff

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[David Greaves]

Hans Reiser wrote:

> Burnes, James wrote:
>
>> How about,
>>
>> "Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>>
>>
>> jim burnes
>> security engineer
>> great-west, denver
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>
Too linux infighty

maybe something around:

     Reiser4 / WinFS - which one are YOU running, Today?

Now even the ext3 team would wear that ;)

David

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Alistair McDonald]

>
> maybe something around:
>
>      Reiser4 / WinFS - which one are YOU running, Today?
>
> Now even the ext3 team would wear that ;)
>
> David

How about "I have fast, safe bits"?  (or blocks)


-- 
Alistair McDonald       (+44)(0)7017-467386
http://www.inrevo.com

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Burnes, James]

Well, of course it sounds like an ad.  It is.  What kind of statement do
you want to make?  Before your users buy a t-shirt you need to know what
they most identify with on Reiser4.

Some haven't tried it yet so it's hard to identify.

Of those who have tried it and use mostly use it, what do they love
about it?

Fast?
Flexible?

Sometimes it can be hard to transfer an abstract concept into something
people really identify with.

What are you most proud of with Reiser4?  

jim burnes
security engineer
great-west, denver
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hans Reiser [mailto:reiser@namesys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:14 AM
> To: Burnes, James
> Cc: Marcel Hilzinger; reiserfs-list@namesys.com
> Subject: Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt
> 
> Burnes, James wrote:
> 
> >How about,
> >
> >"Plug-in To Reiser4!"
> >
> >
> >jim burnes
> >security engineer
> >great-west, denver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 01:06:43PM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:

>>The Living Filesystem

>I suggested the Atomic Filesystem, but Mom pointed out that it added an 
>additional metaphor to the fastman graphic.  I am still thinking about 
>whether she is right.

Those are cool, as is "Plug in to Reiser4", but I think it should be
something _bigger_...

Come the Revolution. Reiser4.

Mission - Vision - Reiser4

Reiser4 - Why Settle for Less?

When Security isn't Enough.

Those do maybe sound a bit over-the-top, and I sure ain't no marketer,
so I'll just see what gets printed :)

And against all better judgment I'll crack the worst joke of the year:
Reiser4 - From Russia with Love
*ducks and runs into hiding*

-- 
mjt

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[John D. Heintz]

We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
Better...stronger...faster

from http://www.scifi.com/bionics/sixmill.html

John

ps - can you guess what I watched alot of when I was young. ;)

Hans Reiser wrote:
> Burnes, James wrote:
> 
>> How about,
>>
>> "Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>>
>>
>> jim burnes
>> security engineer
>> great-west, denver
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
> 
> 

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[David Masover]

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Maybe we should show say "my FS is faster than your FS"?  It is, isn't it?

Or one of these:
	the file IS the system
	the sequil to SQL

What's the current name for 'metas'?  I vote again for ... here:
	echo 1 > /.../wicked_speed


Or any number of commands we could run with some fairly simple plugins:

$ cat reiser4.mp3/.../id3/artist
Hans Reiser, Namesys, and the Band of Hackers

$ cd stuff.zip
$ cat readme.txt
and you thought Windows native Zip support was nice...


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Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando]

Hans Reiser wrote:

> Burnes, James wrote:

Hi,

    I am following the ReiserFS4 progress ... and see that there are 
still serious problems.

    So, I suppose will be more logical to solve these problems, before 
to go ahead on any front.

    When ReiserFS 4 ... will work fine, I propose one of the following 
slogan:

    " ReiserFS ... your data secure like in a safe, and faster like in a 
Ferrari"

    ... or something similar.

Thanks,
Giovanni

>
>> How about,
>>
>> "Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>>
>>
>> jim burnes
>> security engineer
>> great-west, denver
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>


-- 

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http://GNULinuxUtilities.com
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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Burnes, James wrote:

>How about,
>
>"Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>
>
>jim burnes
>security engineer
>great-west, denver
> 
>
>  
>
Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
filesystem is faster than yours...."?

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Peter Foldiak]

> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
> filesystem is faster than yours...."?

not bad. but how about

"Smarter, Faster, Reiser" ?

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando]

Redeeman wrote:

>>Hans Reiser wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Burnes, James wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>    I am following the ReiserFS4 progress ... and see that there are
>>still serious problems.
>>    
>>
>argh? what errors? i dont think any known problems exists anymore.
>  
>
Opps! ... If all errors had been solved, I apologize.

I will make my tests as soon as possible.

Of course, I am happy if works fine :-)


Thanks,
Giovanni

>>    So, I suppose will be more logical to solve these problems, before
>>to go ahead on any front.
>>
>>    When ReiserFS 4 ... will work fine, I propose one of the following
>>slogan:
>>
>>    " ReiserFS ... your data secure like in a safe, and faster like in a
>>Ferrari"
>>
>>    ... or something similar.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Giovanni
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>How about,
>>>>
>>>>"Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>jim burnes
>>>>security engineer
>>>>great-west, denver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My
>>>filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>--
>>
>>--
>>
>>--
>>Check FT Websites ...
>>http://www.futuretg.com  - ftp://ftp.futuretg.com
>>http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com
>>	http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com/Certification
>>http://www.rpmparadaise.org
>>http://GNULinuxUtilities.com
>>http://www.YourPersonalOperatingSystem.com
>>
>>--
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>  
>


-- 

-- 

--
Check FT Websites ... 
http://www.futuretg.com  - ftp://ftp.futuretg.com
http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com
	http://www.FTLinuxCourse.com/Certification
http://www.rpmparadaise.org
http://GNULinuxUtilities.com
http://www.YourPersonalOperatingSystem.com

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Humphries]

'My FS is faster than yours'

'It is simply Faster. Choose ReiserFS.'

'ReiserFS is fastest at reading Journals, is Yours?'

'ReiserFS > *.'

'Sync this... ReiserFS'

'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'

*shrug* anywho, now back to work :)

David Greaves wrote:
> Hans Reiser wrote:
> 
>> Burnes, James wrote:
>>
>>> How about,
>>>
>>> "Plug-in To Reiser4!"
>>>
>>>
>>> jim burnes
>>> security engineer
>>> great-west, denver
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
>> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>>
> Too linux infighty
> 
> maybe something around:
> 
>     Reiser4 / WinFS - which one are YOU running, Today?
> 
> Now even the ext3 team would wear that ;)
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Bostjan Skufca (at) domenca.com]

RFS = FFS

(ReiserFS is FastFS)



-- 
Best regards,

Bostjan Skufca
system administrator



On Thursday 24 of June 2004 16:21, Chris Humphries wrote:
> 'My FS is faster than yours'
>
> 'It is simply Faster. Choose ReiserFS.'
>
> 'ReiserFS is fastest at reading Journals, is Yours?'
>
> 'ReiserFS > *.'
>
> 'Sync this... ReiserFS'
>
> 'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'
>
> *shrug* anywho, now back to work :)
>
> David Greaves wrote:
> > Hans Reiser wrote:
> >> Burnes, James wrote:
> >>> How about,
> >>>
> >>> "Plug-in To Reiser4!"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> jim burnes
> >>> security engineer
> >>> great-west, denver
> >>
> >> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My
> >> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
> >
> > Too linux infighty
> >
> > maybe something around:
> >
> >     Reiser4 / WinFS - which one are YOU running, Today?
> >
> > Now even the ext3 team would wear that ;)
> >
> > David

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Clifford Beshers wrote:

> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
>> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>
>
>
> Everything you always wanted in a filesystem, but were afraid to pay for.
>
> Cliff
>
>
>
Not bad.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Robert P. J. Day]

Reiser:  Where do your files want to go today?

rday

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Dieter Nützel]

Am Mittwoch, 23. Juni 2004 22:06 schrieb Hans Reiser:
> Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> >2004. június 23. 21.38 dátummal Hans Reiser ezt írta:
> >>we are going to use our fastman logo from our web page plus reiser4 in
> >>letters, but we need some slogan underneath it.
> >
> >What about:
> >
> >The Living Filesystem
> >
> >(as there are dancing trees, wandering logs, and development is really
> >alive :-)
>
> I suggested the Atomic Filesystem,

No, please NO such sentences!

Even if Reiser4 can offer such nice features, these terms are burnt.
These shirts should be worn.

> but Mom pointed out that it added an 
> additional metaphor to the fastman graphic.  I am still thinking about
> whether she is right.

Please use some intelligent slogans.

"The Living Filesystem" --- like "Living daylight" ;-)
or
"Plug-in To Reiser4!" (kill the 4) ;-)

are much better.

Stay absent from slogans 'mine is "longer" then yours' (faster) etc.
They are distressing.


Much success for your company!

-Dieter

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Humphries]

thanks to hans reiser and all the reiserfs developers for building
a great filesystem :D

now if only debian would change their options for the filesystem
choice on the bf install images that has ext3 as a more mature fs
and reiserfs as a less mature fs.. heh.

at my last job, we have many government services running on debian
linux with reiserfs, and were very happy with it. just thought i
would point that out :D (company is devis.com)

Hans Reiser wrote:
> Clifford Beshers wrote:
> 
>> Hans Reiser wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My 
>>> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything you always wanted in a filesystem, but were afraid to pay for.
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
> Not bad.
> 
> 
> 

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Burnes, James]

Yeah, I was thinking about that double-entendre.  To rise is to go up,
escalate etc.  But I was thinking about how to say it.  Yours is pretty
close.

"The Reising Tide!" as in the old saying...

"The rising tide floats all boats"

We are the boats...



jim burnes
security engineer
great-west, denver
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Foldiak [mailto:Peter.Foldiak@st-andrews.ac.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:36 AM
> To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
> Subject: Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt
> 
> > Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe,
"My
> > filesystem is faster than yours...."?
> 
> not bad. but how about
> 
> "Smarter, Faster, Reiser" ?
> 

Fwd: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Tierra]

Out of all the suggestions, I like this one the most. I don't know
where the trademarks are on that unfortunately though.

Following close behind that suggestion though, I also liked:
'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'
'When Security isn't Enough.'

Tierra



On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 12:16:42 -0400 (EDT), Robert P. J. Day
<rpjday@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
> Reiser:  Where do your files want to go today?
>
> rday
>

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Burnes, James wrote:

> 'Reise to a new level!'

personally, i've never been keen on deliberate misspellings.  it's 
just my pedantic streak, i guess.

rday

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Burnes, James]

I was just thinking that most good advertising slogans appeal to the
visual centers of the brain.  Think about it.  To get people's attention
you usually don't appeal to the left half of the brain.  Yes the
engineer in you is just amazed when we read bonnie or iozone stats, but
slogans are call forth visuals, and easy concepts.

Think about it.  A t-shirt that has iozone stats on it versus one that
has a picture of a hard drive platter burning rubber like a
high-performance tire.  Which one appeals to you emotionally?  Which one
indicates speed better to the emotional mind?

'Reise to a new level!'

(sorry really bad pun ;-)


jim burnes
security engineer
great-west, denver
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Burnes, James
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: Peter Foldiak; reiserfs-list@namesys.com
> Subject: RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt
> 
> Yeah, I was thinking about that double-entendre.  To rise is to go up,
> escalate etc.  But I was thinking about how to say it.  Yours is
pretty
> close.
> 
> "The Reising Tide!" as in the old saying...
> 
> "The rising tide floats all boats"
> 
> We are the boats...
> 
> 
> 
> jim burnes
> security engineer
> great-west, denver
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Foldiak [mailto:Peter.Foldiak@st-andrews.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 3:36 AM
> > To: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
> > Subject: Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt
> >
> > > Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe,
> "My
> > > filesystem is faster than yours...."?
> >
> > not bad. but how about
> >
> > "Smarter, Faster, Reiser" ?
> >

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Dukes]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:37:22AM -0600, Burnes, James wrote:
> 
> Think about it.  A t-shirt that has iozone stats on it versus one that
> has a picture of a hard drive platter burning rubber like a
> high-performance tire.  Which one appeals to you emotionally?  Which one
> indicates speed better to the emotional mind?

I don't know.  The latter makes it sound like Reiserfs causes the harddrive
to release the sacred blue smoke.

May I make the following suggestions in the interest of this thread.

If the goal is to create a slogan that will attract PHBs, hire a professional
marketing team and be done with it.

If the goal is to create a t-shirt that thinkgeek would like to sell,
get it on slashdot.

Me, I'd rather know about
"Does Reiserfs4 allow unmodified samba to provide Windows ACLs?"
"Does Reiserfs4 come with quota support at this point?"
"How does reiserfs4 cope with catastrophic events?"
-- 
Chris Dukes
Been there, done that, got the slightly-charred t-shirt. -- Crowder

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chet Hosey]

> Clifford Beshers wrote:
>
>> Hans Reiser wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like an ad, we want a t-shirt people want to wear.  Maybe, "My
>>> filesystem is faster than yours...."?
>>
>>
>>
>> Everything you always wanted in a filesystem, but were afraid to pay
>> for.
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>>
>>
> Not bad.
>

ReiserFS: open from the ground up.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Alistair McDonald]

>>
> May I make the following suggestions in the interest of this thread.
>
> If the goal is to create a slogan that will attract PHBs, hire a
> professional
> marketing team and be done with it.
>
> If the goal is to create a t-shirt that thinkgeek would like to sell,
> get it on slashdot.
>

Great ideas, both of them.

I recall a "design a t-shirt" thread/competition on /. a couple of years
ago. The editors will _probably_ be up for it, but are also _probably_
wary of becoming a free-competition service, so you might not get your
story posted. There are lots of other /. like sites, however, if the main
site rejects your story. If you go for /., I think it would be better if
the request came from Hans himself.

Alistair (I have fast, safe bits)
-- 
Alistair McDonald       (+44)(0)7017-467386
http://www.inrevo.com

Re: Fwd: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Christian Iversen]

On Thursday 24 June 2004 18:34, Tierra wrote:
> Out of all the suggestions, I like this one the most. I don't know
> where the trademarks are on that unfortunately though.
>
> Following close behind that suggestion though, I also liked:
> 'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'
> 'When Security isn't Enough.'

How about a reference to the tail-packer? I don't know if it has been improved 
in reiser4, but "Got tail?" is sure to get some attention ;)

-- 
Regards,
Christian Iversen

Re: Fwd: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Christian Iversen wrote:

>On Thursday 24 June 2004 18:34, Tierra wrote:
>  
>
>>Out of all the suggestions, I like this one the most. I don't know
>>where the trademarks are on that unfortunately though.
>>
>>Following close behind that suggestion though, I also liked:
>>'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'
>>'When Security isn't Enough.'
>>    
>>
>
>How about a reference to the tail-packer? I don't know if it has been improved 
>in reiser4, but "Got tail?" is sure to get some attention ;)
>
>  
>
This is the first witty one, but we got rid of tails conceptually in 
reiser4, and now we either store in formatted items the whole file or 
none of it.

Re: Fwd: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Christian Iversen]

On Friday 25 June 2004 01:25, Hans Reiser wrote:
> Christian Iversen wrote:
> >On Thursday 24 June 2004 18:34, Tierra wrote:
> >>Out of all the suggestions, I like this one the most. I don't know
> >>where the trademarks are on that unfortunately though.
> >>
> >>Following close behind that suggestion though, I also liked:
> >>'Sync this. ReiserFS already did.'
> >>'When Security isn't Enough.'
> >
> >How about a reference to the tail-packer? I don't know if it has been
> > improved in reiser4, but "Got tail?" is sure to get some attention ;)
>
> This is the first witty one, but we got rid of tails conceptually in
> reiser4, and now we either store in formatted items the whole file or
> none of it.

dang.. that kind of ruins the point.

I'll try harder :)

-- 
Regards,
Christian Iversen

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hubert Chan]

>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Dukes <pakrat@www.uk.linux.org> writes:

[...]

Chris> If the goal is to create a slogan that will attract PHBs, hire a
Chris> professional marketing team and be done with it.

Chris> If the goal is to create a t-shirt that thinkgeek would like to
Chris> sell, get it on slashdot.

Hiring professionals might work.  But I doubt slashdot would have much
to offer.  I don't think the average slashdotter knows what's so great
about Reiser4.  The majority of those who do are probably on this list
already.

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Tierra]

That is true... I just joined the list about a month ago. I didn't
know what you guys were up to until reading these threads the past
month. I only joined because me and a friend are working on a new GUI
for rfstool (for extracting files from a ReiserFS partition to
Windows) as all the only one I could find was crap. Speaking of which
I never made the announcement here, and it already supports exporting
files and entire folders. I mostly didn't say anything because it's
still heavy alpha stage and I still need to link in a ton more of the
UI, and work on the file listing.

You can check it out here (SVN or just use HTTP):
http://gnuk.net/svn/rfs/

Anyway, keep up the awesome work on Reiser4.

Tierra


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:58:45 -0400, Hubert Chan <hubert@uhoreg.ca> wrote:

> Hiring professionals might work.  But I doubt slashdot would have much
> to offer.  I don't think the average slashdotter knows what's so great
> about Reiser4.  The majority of those who do are probably on this list
> already.
> 
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Re: Fwd: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[I R T]

Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> writes:

> This is the first witty one

Reiser: The rising file system

( a reference to its increasing popularity)

Reiser : when you need speed !

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

So far I am leaning towards "My Filesystem Is Faster", which you can 
interpret as compared to ReiserFS V3 if you choose to.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Cami]

Reiserfs4: cant make coffee, yet..
Reiserfs4: adding 2 inches to your ego..
Reiserfs4: more than just a filesystem..
Reiserfs4: you are the weakest link..
Linux outside, Reiserfs4 inside..
Reiserfs4: chicks dig it..
Reiserfs4: plug and play where you need it most
Reiserfs4: its our passion..

and my favourite i could come up with:

Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Lars Marowsky-Bree]

On 2004-06-25T00:53:49,
   Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> said:

> So far I am leaning towards "My Filesystem Is Faster", which you can 
> interpret as compared to ReiserFS V3 if you choose to.

With reiserfs4 offering transactional semantics and all that (to a
degree) and being fast like someone on speed, I still love the 

	Reiserfs - ACID for your files!


Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Raymond A. Meijer]

On Fri 25 June 2004 11:04, Cami wrote:

> and my favourite i could come up with:
>
> Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast

I think we have a winner! :D LOL


Ray

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:35:59AM +0300, Raymond A. Meijer wrote:
>On Fri 25 June 2004 11:04, Cami wrote:
>> Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
>I think we have a winner! :D LOL

This one is really funny :)

I got an idea, which may be inconvenient, but what about having different
shirts, maybe two or three, one with a funny slogan, one with a technical
slogan and one with a bombastic slogan?

Just an idea..

-- 
mjt

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando]

Markus Törnqvist wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:35:59AM +0300, Raymond A. Meijer wrote:
>  
>
>>On Fri 25 June 2004 11:04, Cami wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
>>>      
>>>
Approved ... very nice ... we need something geek like this

Regards,
Giovanni

>>I think we have a winner! :D LOL
>>    
>>
>
>This one is really funny :)
>
>I got an idea, which may be inconvenient, but what about having different
>shirts, maybe two or three, one with a funny slogan, one with a technical
>slogan and one with a bombastic slogan?
>
>Just an idea..
>
>  
>


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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Humphries]

that and most the people there are complete morons :)

Hubert Chan wrote:
>>>>>>"Chris" == Chris Dukes <pakrat@www.uk.linux.org> writes:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> Chris> If the goal is to create a slogan that will attract PHBs, hire a
> Chris> professional marketing team and be done with it.
> 
> Chris> If the goal is to create a t-shirt that thinkgeek would like to
> Chris> sell, get it on slashdot.
> 
> Hiring professionals might work.  But I doubt slashdot would have much
> to offer.  I don't think the average slashdotter knows what's so great
> about Reiser4.  The majority of those who do are probably on this list
> already.
> 

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[daniel.poelzleithner]

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Sander]

Cami wrote (ao):
> Reiserfs4: cant make coffee, yet..
> Reiserfs4: adding 2 inches to your ego..
> Reiserfs4: more than just a filesystem..
> Reiserfs4: you are the weakest link..
> Linux outside, Reiserfs4 inside..
> Reiserfs4: chicks dig it..
> Reiserfs4: plug and play where you need it most
> Reiserfs4: its our passion..
> 
> and my favourite i could come up with:
> 
> Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast

I believe the official name is Reiser4, not Reiserfs4. Is this true
Hans?

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Sander wrote:

>Cami wrote (ao):
>  
>
>>Reiserfs4: cant make coffee, yet..
>>Reiserfs4: adding 2 inches to your ego..
>>Reiserfs4: more than just a filesystem..
>>Reiserfs4: you are the weakest link..
>>Linux outside, Reiserfs4 inside..
>>Reiserfs4: chicks dig it..
>>Reiserfs4: plug and play where you need it most
>>Reiserfs4: its our passion..
>>
>>and my favourite i could come up with:
>>
>>Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
>>    
>>
>
>I believe the official name is Reiser4, not Reiserfs4. Is this true
>Hans?
>
>
>  
>
This mailing list convinced me that fs in a mount name is uninformative, 
though ReiserFS V4 is considered a synonym in documentation and 
licensing to Reiser4.

Hans

RE: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Burnes, James]

jim burnes
security engineer
great-west, denver
 

> Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast

Love that one.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Dukes]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:17:47AM -0600, Burnes, James wrote:
> 
> 
> jim burnes
> security engineer
> great-west, denver
>  
> 
> > Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
> 
> Love that one.

But shouldn't it be
Reiser4:  No fsck.
or
Reiser4:  Fsck, no.

-- 
Chris Dukes
Been there, done that, got the slightly-charred t-shirt. -- Crowder

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Narcoleptic Electron]

Chris Dukes wrote: 
> Reiser4:  Fsck, no.

I think this is the best one so far.



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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:30:16PM +0100, Chris Dukes wrote:

>But shouldn't it be
>Reiser4:  No fsck.
>or
>Reiser4:  Fsck, no.

Aren't those slogans AGAINST Reiser4?

I mean, consider the pun that "fsck, no!" revolves around and the situations
in which you exclaim it...

That's why "fsck'ing fast" is a funnier and better slogain, imo.

Not that the semantic tree pass is THAT fast on a big hard drive, even :P :)

-- 
mjt

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Narcoleptic Electron wrote:

> Chris Dukes wrote:
>> Reiser4:  Fsck, no.

um ... isn't that kind of promoting a *negative* attitude?

rday

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 09:48:53AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>This mailing list convinced me that fs in a mount name is uninformative, 
>though ReiserFS V4 is considered a synonym in documentation and 
>licensing to Reiser4.

Not to step on anyone's toes, which I still do all the time, please print
Reiser4 on the t-shirt. It's the name that "everyone" uses :)

But I guess this is what you already said, so I'll just go do something
else ;)

-- 
mjt

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Narcoleptic Electron]

Markus Törnqvist wrote: 

> Chris Dukes wrote:
> >But shouldn't it be
> >Reiser4:  No fsck.
> >or
> >Reiser4:  Fsck, no.
> 
> Aren't those slogans AGAINST Reiser4?
> 
> I mean, consider the pun that "fsck, no!" revolves
> around and the situations
> in which you exclaim it...
> 
> That's why "fsck'ing fast" is a funnier and better
> slogain, imo.

You're right.

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

I personally don't like substitute obscenities --- people who want to 
swear should do so --- so I won't use fsck as suggested.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Christian Iversen]

On Friday 25 June 2004 19:30, Chris Dukes wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:17:47AM -0600, Burnes, James wrote:
> > jim burnes
> > security engineer
> > great-west, denver
> >
> > > Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
> >
> > Love that one.
>
> But shouldn't it be
> Reiser4:  No fsck.

Or "We ain't fsck'ing around!"

-- 
Regards,
Christian Iversen

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Christian Iversen]

On Friday 25 June 2004 20:09, Christian Iversen wrote:
> On Friday 25 June 2004 19:30, Chris Dukes wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:17:47AM -0600, Burnes, James wrote:
> > > jim burnes
> > > security engineer
> > > great-west, denver
> > >
> > > > Reiserfs4: fsck'ing fast
> > >
> > > Love that one.
> >
> > But shouldn't it be
> > Reiser4:  No fsck.
>
> Or "We ain't fsck'ing around!"

to suggest an improvement to myself:

"Reiser4: it's fast - we ain't fsck'ing around!"

-- 
Regards,
Christian Iversen

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Chris Dukes]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Narcoleptic Electron wrote:
> 
> >Chris Dukes wrote:
> >>Reiser4:  Fsck, no.
> 
> um ... isn't that kind of promoting a *negative* attitude?

In that case it's a t-shirt that could be used by reiser4 supporters
and detractors.
Perhaps a punctuation change is in order.

-- 
Chris Dukes
Been there, done that, got the slightly-charred t-shirt. -- Crowder

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hubert Chan]

>>>>> "daniel" == daniel poelzleithner <poelzi@poelzi.org> writes:

daniel> "cd ...metas"

"What do you want to call `metas' today?" ;-) (just kidding)

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Michael Milverton]

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                    R
                 filEsystem
                    Innovative
         plug-inS
                   Engineered
            secuRe
                   Fast
                   S
                   4
engineered for performance


The Idea:
Use REISERFS4 as the trunk of a tree with descriptive words as branches and a 
witty or relavent logo as the grass of the tree. This idea would look much 
better as a graphic with color eg brown centre letters for REISERFS4 that 
were larger and stood out and green for the word branches and grass etc.

P.S I know this is probably of the mark but it is a little bit different so I 
thought it may be useful

Thankyou
Michael Milverton
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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Stas Baldin]

Hi all!

What about my

Reiser4: from Linux with love!


wbr,
Stas

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 01:04:03PM +0800, Michael Milverton wrote:
>                R
Check it:
                 Reliable
>             filEsystem
>                Innovative
>         plug-inS
>                Engineered
>            secuRe
>                Fast
>                S
>                4
>engineered for performance

Also, if "Fast" was dropped, there'd be no extra S hanging around and
it'd say Reiser4 which is the street name ;)

>The Idea:
>Use REISERFS4 as the trunk of a tree with descriptive words as branches and a 
>witty or relavent logo as the grass of the tree. This idea would look much 
>better as a graphic with color eg brown centre letters for REISERFS4 that 
>were larger and stood out and green for the word branches and grass etc.

Then everyone should buy XXXXXXL shirts just so the tree would dance on
a windy day :D

>P.S I know this is probably of the mark but it is a little bit different so I 
>thought it may be useful

Personally, I love this suggestion.

-- 
mjt

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Michael Milverton]

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 05:38 pm, Markus Törnqvist wrote:
Thanks Markus :)
> Personally, I love this suggestion.
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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Mikael Cluseau]

Reiser4 doesn't need a slogan. Try it, you'll love it :)

The filesystem problem is solved.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Adam Gołębiowski]

On Sat, Jun 26, 2004 at 06:12:55PM +0200, Mikael Cluseau wrote:
> 
> Reiser4 doesn't need a slogan. Try it, you'll love it :)
> 
> The filesystem problem is solved.

How about

"I wanted to have a reliable filesystem and all I got is that lousy shirt"

everything after "and" is crossed out and above/below is:
"I have it! ReiserFS 4!"

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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Bob Vincent]

On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 08:15:13PM +0200, Christian Iversen wrote:
> "Reiser4: it's fast - we ain't fsck'ing around!"

Or to combine with my other favorite:

     Smarter... Faster... Reiser.

        No fsck'ing around.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Cami]

Last week everyone was talking about 'fsck'..
Hows about this one:

Reiser4: for fsck's sake..

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[mjt]

On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 08:26:59AM +0200, Cami wrote:
>Reiser4: for fsck's sake..

Disregarding the facts that it's a lame pun and Hans ditched it...

-- 
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for fuck's sake

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Michael Milverton wrote:

>                    R
>                 filEsystem
>                    Innovative
>         plug-inS
>                   Engineered
>            secuRe
>                   Fast
>                   S
>                   4
>engineered for performance
>
>
>The Idea:
>Use REISERFS4 as the trunk of a tree with descriptive words as branches and a 
>witty or relavent logo as the grass of the tree. This idea would look much 
>better as a graphic with color eg brown centre letters for REISERFS4 that 
>were larger and stood out and green for the word branches and grass etc.
>
>P.S I know this is probably of the mark but it is a little bit different so I 
>thought it may be useful
>
>Thankyou
>Michael Milverton
>  
>
Interesting.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[beverly reiser]

I think we could use the words just as they are with out a tree graphic 
only with this slight modifacation.
Put REISERFS4 in a different color from the rest of the words.
>>                   R
>>                 filEsystem
>>                    Innovative
>>         plug-inS
>>                   Engineered
>>            secuRe
>>                   Fast
>>                   Sleek
>>engineered  4  performance

or just use :
>>                   Fast
>>                   Sleek
>>engineered  4  performance

What do you think?
Beverly
with F
       S
        4
in contrasting colors.






At 10:56 AM 6/28/2004 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>Michael Milverton wrote:
>
>>                    R
>>                 filEsystem
>>                    Innovative
>>         plug-inS
>>                   Engineered
>>            secuRe
>>                   Fast
>>                   S
>>                   4
>>engineered for performance
>>
>>
>>The Idea:
>>Use REISERFS4 as the trunk of a tree with descriptive words as branches 
>>and a witty or relavent logo as the grass of the tree. This idea would 
>>look much better as a graphic with color eg brown centre letters for 
>>REISERFS4 that were larger and stood out and green for the word branches 
>>and grass etc.
>>
>>P.S I know this is probably of the mark but it is a little bit different 
>>so I thought it may be useful
>>
>>Thankyou
>>Michael Milverton
>>
>Interesting.

Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Michael Milverton]

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If you think you can use the idea then your welcome to change what you like :) 

The main logic of the idea is that the tree concept is quite central to the 
filesystem. Anybody who was familiar with the concepts behind the filesystem 
would probably connect the idea, and those who didn't would still have all 
the descriptive words and/or phrases to think about.

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:45 am, beverly reiser wrote:
> I think we could use the words just as they are with out a tree graphic
> only with this slight modifacation.
> Put REISERFS4 in a different color from the rest of the words.
>
> >>                   R
> >>                 filEsystem
> >>                    Innovative
> >>         plug-inS
> >>                   Engineered
> >>            secuRe
> >>                   Fast
> >>                   Sleek
> >>engineered  4  performance
>
> or just use :
> >>                   Fast
> >>                   Sleek
> >>engineered  4  performance
>
> What do you think?
> Beverly
> with F
>        S
>         4
> in contrasting colors.
>
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Re: we need a slogan for our reiser4 t-shirt

[Hans Reiser]

Mom, with these sorts of things you just give them a try, see what they 
look like, and not even the artist knows until she is done.  Yes?



Hans

beverly reiser wrote:

>
> I think we could use the words just as they are with out a tree 
> graphic only with this slight modifacation.
> Put REISERFS4 in a different color from the rest of the words.
>
>>>                   R
>>>                 filEsystem
>>>                    Innovative
>>>         plug-inS
>>>                   Engineered
>>>            secuRe
>>>                   Fast
>>>                   Sleek
>>> engineered  4  performance
>>
>
> or just use :
>
>>>                   Fast
>>>                   Sleek
>>> engineered  4  performance
>>
>
> What do you think?
> Beverly
> with F
>       S
>        4
> in contrasting colors.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:56 AM 6/28/2004 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>> Michael Milverton wrote:
>>
>>>                    R
>>>                 filEsystem
>>>                    Innovative
>>>         plug-inS
>>>                   Engineered
>>>            secuRe
>>>                   Fast
>>>                   S
>>>                   4
>>> engineered for performance
>>>
>>>
>>> The Idea:
>>> Use REISERFS4 as the trunk of a tree with descriptive words as 
>>> branches and a witty or relavent logo as the grass of the tree. This 
>>> idea would look much better as a graphic with color eg brown centre 
>>> letters for REISERFS4 that were larger and stood out and green for 
>>> the word branches and grass etc.
>>>
>>> P.S I know this is probably of the mark but it is a little bit 
>>> different so I thought it may be useful
>>>
>>> Thankyou
>>> Michael Milverton
>>>
>> Interesting.
>
>
>
>
>