From: "Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" <gorlando@futuretg.com>
To: "Markus Törnqvist" <mjt@nysv.org>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: implementing reiserfs in C++ for a new OS
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:12:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <411A0D42.8020204@futuretg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040811105442.GY1284@nysv.org>
Markus Törnqvist wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 11:44:59AM +0200, Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando wrote:
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>>Meucci open the file for copyright before Bell, but seems it is
>>necessary to renew each year.
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>Copyrights are not filed, patents are.
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Yes. is the patent, not the copyright.
He don't have the money to pay the renew the patent.
>Are you sure you're not mistaken in words here?
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>>Therefore, he don't renew.
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>How stupid of him.
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>>The word "inventor" in the US, means generally "rich". This have another
>>sense outside America, or
>>for immigrant people.
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>I have never heard of a rich inventor, except the chance to get money
>by producing the invention.
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Well. If an inventor have no money is a BIG problem, however actually
in the GPL times, it is very easy to release a software also with no money.
>>>"Tekijänoikeus suojaa teoksen kirjallista tai muuta asua, ei asiasisältöä."
>>>Copyright protects the literary or other presentation of a work, not the
>>>factual content.
>>>
>>>
>>This is bad. The code or documentation explains the ideas, and must be
>>copyright in the same mode are the ideas itself.
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>The idea is not copyrighted or patented or protected in any way, but the
>code is.
>
This is bad and incorrect for me.
> There is a difference there.
>Of course the idea can be patented in some degenerate country like the US
>and it seems the EU is making the same mistake, but technically the idea
>can not be protected. And should not be.
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The US is not a degeneated country. Do you stay in the US sometime?
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>>Yes. Actually today it is also possible to configure the kernel
>>graphically, but my idea is better.
>>I need time that I have no actually.
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>I know how you're feeling.
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>I have also many projects for which I haven't had time, so I've given
>them away to see if anyone else would do it and I would help and give
>ideas. All in freedom and free software.
>
>Maybe you should talk to the KDE guys about your idea that they would
>implement it more like you would, both of you would win.
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>>If you comment to KDE people something that does not exist, and after
>>your comment exist something similar
>>you need simply do a small sum: 2+2.
>>Be stoled by someone that re-offer it under GPL your idea, cause some
>>bad humor.
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>You gave it to them, whose fault is that?
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I comment what we will do. They release a version. However, actually is
not important.
>>>Respect should come from respecting someone else.
>>>
>>>
>>In 1987 or so, Chinese and people for Taiwan and Japan go around the
>>world and comment:
>>"We will copy your product and do it better". Today, Taiwan and Japan is
>>probably the best
>>place for electronic components worldwide.
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>Sure. And we let them do it, whose fault is that?
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>>Different companies here in Italy, about manufacturing suffering some
>>fraud from Chinese companies
>>that re-produce the hardware for car testing and stole the clients. Do
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>Fraud?
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>If they do it better, where's the fraud?
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No they copy 100% the same machine for car test.
>I mean, what's stopping Italy from doing it better than China?
>Berlusconi? C'mon, you could still compete with China, it's not like the
>world's biggest army is holding you in siege.
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>>will someone open a case on China
>>for copyright contacting chinese attorneys?. Very complex and expensive.
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>I don't know how the car is patented, I'm sure it is, but still everyone
>has the right to set up a car shop and build the things.
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>This is one of the points of free trade. Everyone's equal and free,
>so if someone pushes out better products, you respond by making an even
>better product.
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>I fail to see the point in whining about something as glorious as this.
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>>I see the entire software industry going to disaster because some young
>>boy release a similar program
>>at no cost. No one may compete with free. In any this is a complex
>>global problem.
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>Of course you can compete with free, fight free with free, make a better
>free solution.
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>It's like a*x=a*y => x=y
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>>>I must confess I haven't seen Tron...
>>>
>>>
>>You don't know Tron, because probably you are too young.
>>Tron was made by Walt Disney (Buena ventura). It is dated 1982.
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>I know such a movie exists, but not much more. I'm also born in 1982 ;)
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>>Jeff Bridges, a young programmer in a small company was stoled by its
>>game program. A friend of him write a program
>>that inspect information, and also some time ... the owner of the
>>company was fired because he claim to be the author
>>of the game and Jeff Bridge then get the 'expected' money and respect.
>>
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>Yeah, I should see it.
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OK.
Thanks,
Giovanni
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-11 12:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-07 13:11 implementing reiserfs in C++ for a new OS Ramachandra K
2004-08-07 14:54 ` Redeeman
2004-08-07 15:05 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-07 15:11 ` Redeeman
2004-08-07 17:51 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-09 14:36 ` Ramachandra K
2004-08-09 14:52 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-09 15:09 ` Marcelo Pacheco
2004-08-09 15:12 ` mjt
2004-08-09 15:22 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-09 15:35 ` mjt
2004-08-09 17:01 ` Chris Dukes
2004-08-09 17:24 ` mjt
2004-08-10 5:26 ` Ramachandra K
2004-08-10 19:12 ` Quinn Harris
2004-08-10 19:51 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-10 21:19 ` mjt
2004-08-10 22:05 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 4:54 ` Spam
2004-08-11 6:08 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 10:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-11 16:43 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 16:47 ` mjt
2004-08-11 16:55 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-11 17:36 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 17:42 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-11 17:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-11 20:40 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-11 23:12 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 17:16 ` Chris Dukes
2004-08-11 17:26 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-11 17:40 ` mjt
2004-08-11 17:42 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 17:16 ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-11 17:42 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 20:21 ` Spam
2004-08-12 14:44 ` mjt
2004-08-11 7:39 ` mjt
2004-08-11 7:51 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 8:01 ` mjt
2004-08-11 8:10 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-11 8:28 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 9:00 ` mjt
2004-08-11 9:44 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-11 9:55 ` Rudy L. Zijlstra
2004-08-11 10:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-11 16:51 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-11 10:54 ` mjt
2004-08-11 11:07 ` Christophe Saout
2004-08-11 12:12 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando [this message]
2004-08-11 12:39 ` mjt
2004-08-11 13:04 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-11 13:21 ` mjt
2004-08-11 23:22 ` Tom Vier
2004-08-12 14:47 ` mjt
2004-08-11 22:04 ` David Greaves
2004-08-09 15:17 ` Jonathan Briggs
[not found] <20040808020024.746D415C29@mail03.powweb.com>
2004-08-08 2:11 ` David Dabbs
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