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From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@hist.no>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>,
	William Stearns <wstearns@pobox.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 11:42:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <414176F2.3030301@hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040909090342.GA30303@thunk.org>

Theodore Ts'o wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 12:09:52AM +0200, Robin Rosenberg wrote:
>  
>
>>Maybe file/./attribute then. /. on a file is currently meaningless. That does 
>>not avoid the unpleasant fact that has been brought up by others (only to be 
>>ignored), that the directory syntax does not allow metadata on directories.
>>    
>>
>
>*Not* that I am endorsing the idea of being able to access metadata
>via a standard pathname --- I continue to believe that named streams
>are a bad idea that will be an attractive nuisance to application
>developers, and if we must do them, then Solaris's openat(2) API is
>the best way to proceed --- HOWEVER, if people are insistent on being
>able to do this via standard pathnames, and not introducing a new
>system call, I would suggest /|/ as the separator as the third least
>worst option.  Why?
>  
>
What's wrong with using / as the separator?  It is already
used to separate components of pathnames.  Named streams
are very much like files in a subdirectory.

This scheme makes for very little change to existing tools,
users may then do a "gimp somefile/icon.jpg"  for example.
Or "ls somefile/*" to see all the named streams/forks.

Helge Hafting

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-10  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-29 20:21 silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why Hans Reiser
2004-08-31  0:05 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2004-08-31  6:43   ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-01  3:13     ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2004-09-01  3:55       ` David Masover
2004-09-01  8:07       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-01 17:19         ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-31 13:12 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-31 13:36   ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-02 11:59     ` Mikaël Cluseau
2004-09-02 13:32       ` mjt
2004-09-07 20:16   ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-07 20:59     ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-08  9:14       ` Romano Giannetti
2004-09-07 21:05     ` William Stearns
2004-09-07 22:09       ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-09  9:03         ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat " Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-09 17:23           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 18:09           ` Gunnar Ritter
2004-09-09 19:15           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 20:45             ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10  0:57               ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  1:15                 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10  5:04                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  5:53                     ` viro
2004-09-10  6:52                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  7:05                         ` viro
2004-09-10  7:30                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 16:49                             ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 17:23                               ` viro
2004-09-10  7:21                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  7:33                         ` viro
2004-09-10  7:46                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10  8:18                             ` viro
2004-09-10  9:20                     ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 17:48                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 17:07                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 13:08                     ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-10  3:22                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-12 20:43             ` Davide Inglima
2004-09-10  9:42           ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2004-09-10 17:42             ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]             ` <20040910201738.GB8698@eskimo.com>
2004-09-14  8:39               ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-31 14:09 ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what " Mike Waychison
2004-08-31 18:35   ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 17:55 ` V13
2004-08-31 18:17   ` Spam
2004-08-31 18:17     ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:08     ` Tonnerre
2004-08-31 19:38       ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:38         ` Spam
2004-09-01  3:11         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-01  3:11           ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-01 13:18           ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-08-31 19:35     ` V13
2004-08-31 20:22       ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 20:31         ` Spam
2004-08-31 21:58           ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 22:15             ` Spam
2004-08-31 22:46               ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 18:51   ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 19:49   ` Chris Dawes
2004-09-01  6:03   ` Hans Reiser

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