From: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
To: Spam <spam@tnonline.net>
Cc: Tonnerre <tonnerre@thundrix.ch>, V13 <v13@priest.com>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 05:11:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409010511.31597.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <111617109.20040831213808@tnonline.net>
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 21.38, Spam wrote:
> > Salut,
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Spam wrote:
> >> How are things done on Windows platforms when there are files and
> >> directories with the same name? In Unix that is imposible. How does
> >> it work for environments like Cygwin etc? What happen to tools
> >> that run in them?
> >
> > In NTFS it's illegal IIRC. At least the fs correction utilities
> > complain about a block being assigned to two files.
>
> I meant a file and a directory with the same name, not two files
> with the same name :) subtle but important difference.
>
> ie, you can have a file named "foo" and a directory named "foo" and
> they won't collide.
You can't have a file and a directory with the same name in W*.
Alternative data streams don't appear in a normal directory. You
need special API:s and tools to see them. If you know the name of and ADS
you can however access them with standard tools, including cygwin.
echo foo >a.txt
echo bar >a.txt:b.txt
You can also have ADS's on directories. Not sure how Reiserfs4 does that.
mkdir foo
echo bar >foo:a.txt
-- robin
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>
To: Spam <spam@tnonline.net>
Cc: Tonnerre <tonnerre@thundrix.ch>, V13 <v13@priest.com>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 05:11:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200409010511.31597.robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <111617109.20040831213808@tnonline.net>
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 21.38, Spam wrote:
> > Salut,
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 08:17:36PM +0200, Spam wrote:
> >> How are things done on Windows platforms when there are files and
> >> directories with the same name? In Unix that is imposible. How does
> >> it work for environments like Cygwin etc? What happen to tools
> >> that run in them?
> >
> > In NTFS it's illegal IIRC. At least the fs correction utilities
> > complain about a block being assigned to two files.
>
> I meant a file and a directory with the same name, not two files
> with the same name :) subtle but important difference.
>
> ie, you can have a file named "foo" and a directory named "foo" and
> they won't collide.
You can't have a file and a directory with the same name in W*.
Alternative data streams don't appear in a normal directory. You
need special API:s and tools to see them. If you know the name of and ADS
you can however access them with standard tools, including cygwin.
echo foo >a.txt
echo bar >a.txt:b.txt
You can also have ADS's on directories. Not sure how Reiserfs4 does that.
mkdir foo
echo bar >foo:a.txt
-- robin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-09-01 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-29 20:21 silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what reiser4 wants to do with metafiles and why Hans Reiser
2004-08-31 0:05 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2004-08-31 6:43 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-01 3:13 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2004-09-01 3:55 ` David Masover
2004-09-01 8:07 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-01 17:19 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando
2004-08-31 13:12 ` Pavel Machek
2004-08-31 13:36 ` Christian Mayrhuber
2004-09-02 11:59 ` Mikaël Cluseau
2004-09-02 13:32 ` mjt
2004-09-07 20:16 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-07 20:59 ` Pavel Machek
2004-09-08 9:14 ` Romano Giannetti
2004-09-07 21:05 ` William Stearns
2004-09-07 22:09 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-09 9:03 ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea ofwhat " Theodore Ts'o
2004-09-09 17:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-09-09 18:09 ` Gunnar Ritter
2004-09-09 19:15 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-09 20:45 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10 0:57 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 1:15 ` Paul Jakma
2004-09-10 5:04 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 5:53 ` viro
2004-09-10 6:52 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 7:05 ` viro
2004-09-10 7:30 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 16:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 17:23 ` viro
2004-09-10 7:21 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 7:33 ` viro
2004-09-10 7:46 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 8:18 ` viro
2004-09-10 9:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 17:48 ` Hans Reiser
2004-09-10 17:07 ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 13:08 ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-10 3:22 ` Horst von Brand
2004-09-12 20:43 ` Davide Inglima
2004-09-10 9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2004-09-10 17:42 ` Horst von Brand
[not found] ` <20040910201738.GB8698@eskimo.com>
2004-09-14 8:39 ` Helge Hafting
2004-08-31 14:09 ` silent semantic changes in reiser4 (brief attempt to document the idea of what " Mike Waychison
2004-08-31 18:35 ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 17:55 ` V13
2004-08-31 18:17 ` Spam
2004-08-31 18:17 ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:08 ` Tonnerre
2004-08-31 19:38 ` Spam
2004-08-31 19:38 ` Spam
2004-09-01 3:11 ` Robin Rosenberg [this message]
2004-09-01 3:11 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-09-01 13:18 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2004-08-31 19:35 ` V13
2004-08-31 20:22 ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 20:31 ` Spam
2004-08-31 21:58 ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 22:15 ` Spam
2004-08-31 22:46 ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 18:51 ` Hubert Chan
2004-08-31 19:49 ` Chris Dawes
2004-09-01 6:03 ` Hans Reiser
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