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From: "Kendall Bennett" <KendallB@scitechsoft.com>
To: Gerd Knorr <kraxel@bytesex.org>, linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, penguinppc-team@lists.penguinppc.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:36:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <416FB624.27698.1D23BA6@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d5zkqj8h.fsf@bytesex.org>

Gerd Knorr <kraxel@bytesex.org> wrote:

> "Kendall Bennett" <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> writes:
> 
> > Note that the SNAPBoot code uses the x86emu BIOS emulator project as the 
> > core CPU emulation technology, and project we have been actively involved 
> > with for many years since the licensing on the project was changed to 
> > MIT/BSD style licensing and incorporated into the XFree86 project.
> 
> > So what we would like to find out is how much interest there might be in 
> > both an updated VESA framebuffer console driver as well as the code for 
> > the Video card BOOT process being contributed to the maintstream kernel. 
> 
> It certainly would be nice to have that.  Not nessesarely in the
> kernel through, people tend not to like such complex stuff like
> cpu emulation in the kernel for good reasons.  

Well think about it as an x86 p-code interpreter then ;-) Kind of like a 
forth interpreter for Open Firmware but we use an x86 image instead.

> The kernel can run userspace apps (modprobe, hotplug), that
> mechanism could be used to invoke a userspace tool which does the
> boot / mode switching. Having it in userspace likely also makes it
> easier to share code with X11. 

I agree entirely, provided we can find a way to get this to run really 
early in the boot sequence. We need this for non-x86 embedded machines 
such as PowerPC and MIPS, not for x86 platforms where the BIOS can be 
called from the boot loader easily.

> Have you talked to the powermanagement guys btw.?  One of the
> major issues with suspend-to-ram is to get the graphics card back
> online, and SNAPBoot might help to fix this too.  I'm not sure a
> userspace solution would work for *that* through. 

That is a good point. Another good reason to have the code in there ;-)

Regards,

---
Kendall Bennett
Chief Executive Officer
SciTech Software, Inc.
Phone: (530) 894 8400
http://www.scitechsoft.com

~ SciTech SNAP - The future of device driver technology! ~

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-10-15 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-14 19:02 Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Kendall Bennett
2004-10-14 19:59 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 23:36   ` Ian Romanick
2004-10-14 20:48 ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 18:05   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 18:55     ` Zachary Smith
2004-10-15 19:18       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 22:22       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15  0:27 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15  0:27   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 21:51       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 23:20       ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-15 23:51         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:58           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:15           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16  1:50         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  1:50           ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  2:03           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 19:34               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 20:34               ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 20:34                 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Richard Smith
2004-10-18 20:47                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 21:04                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 21:16                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 22:34                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 22:34                     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Richard Smith
2004-10-18 23:28                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19  0:18                       ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19  0:18                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Richard Smith
2004-10-19  0:55                     ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19  1:39                       ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19  1:39                         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Richard Smith
2004-10-19 17:54                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 17:54                           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:48                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:01                           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:08                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36                             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 19:36                               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 12:05 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 12:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 12:45     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-19 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 13:13     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-17 12:07       ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18  8:36         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18  8:36           ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 11:39           ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 12:10             ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 12:10               ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 20:21               ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-18 20:42                 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-10-19 16:57                   ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-15 18:29     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2004-10-16  9:01       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-16  9:01         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett [this message]
2004-10-15 13:48 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 13:48   ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 22:12       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-16  0:41         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  0:41           ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-26 11:14           ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-26 11:14             ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27  1:58             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-27 11:11               ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27 19:52                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-27 19:52                   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 21:51       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16 17:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-16 17:44   ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 19:34     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-19 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:01     ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:31     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 18:44       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 18:44         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:10         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36           ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 19:36             ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 20:47             ` Richard Smith

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