From: "Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando" <gorlando@futuretg.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Reiserfs developers mail-list <Reiserfs-Dev@namesys.com>,
ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.9-mm1
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:41:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <417BBEFD.9080308@futuretg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4179425A.3080903@namesys.com>
Hans Reiser wrote:
> Andrew Morton wrote:
>
>>
>> - reiser4: not sure, really. The namespace extensions were disabled,
>> although all the code for that is still present. Linus's filesystem
>> criterion used to be "once lots of people are using it, preferably
>> when
>> vendors are shipping it". That's a bit of a chicken and egg thing
>> though.
>> Needs more discussion.
>>
>>
>>
> No distro using reiserfs V3 as the default is going to keep doing so
> once reiser4 meets their stability requirements. Reiserfs is used by a
> lot of people, and reiser4 obsoletes it, and the users know that.
I agree that OS that choose ReiserFS for default now will adopt Reiser4
instead ReiserFS 3, .... but they need to continue
to support ReiserFS 3 as well Reiser4 ...
In some sense this is equivalent to ext2 and ext3.
Thanks,
Giovanni
> None of the distros have expressed any intent of staying on V3, and
> they'd be silly to do it. Many of them have expressed a desire to use
> reiser4. Next year, indications are that reiser4 usage by distros as
> their default will exceed that which is today possessed by V3. The
> higher performance of V4 is going to increase our market share.
>
> I would like to encourage its inclusion as an experimental filesystem
> BEFORE vendors ship it. I think first putting experimental stuff in
> the kernels used by hackers makes sense. I think it creates more of a
> community.
>
> I'd like to point out that there is a lot of stuff in the kernel that
> is a lot less stable than reiser4.
>
> That said, inclusion in -mm found some bugs, and we are still testing
> one of the fixes which was a bit deep. I want to finish that testing
> (not more than 7 days) and send you all fixes before asking for
> inclusion.
>
> Also, Hellwig made a valid point about getting rid of some macros that
> reduce readability (I also hate code that prevents editors finding
> called functions), and zam is working on fixing that.
>
> Lindows is planning on shipping with reiser4 in its next release. I
> would very much like to see our inclusion before that.
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-24 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-22 10:20 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-22 10:39 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-22 10:54 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-22 11:08 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-22 17:26 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hans Reiser
2004-10-22 19:34 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Roman Zippel
2004-10-27 11:19 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2004-10-22 15:54 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Chris Wright
2004-10-22 12:23 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-10-22 19:26 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 13:39 ` 2.6.9-mm1: pc_debug multiple definitions Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 23:07 ` Russell King
2004-10-24 3:41 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-10-24 3:41 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-10-24 9:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-24 10:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-10-24 10:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2004-10-22 13:43 ` [patch] 2.6.9-mm1: usb/serial/console.c compile error Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 18:08 ` Greg KH
2004-10-22 13:50 ` 2.6.9-mm1: timer_event multiple definition Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 15:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-10-22 19:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 19:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-10-25 23:07 ` George Anzinger
2004-10-25 23:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2004-10-22 13:59 ` [patch] 2.6.9-mm1: ISDN hisax_fcpcipnp.c: kill unused variable Adrian Bunk
2004-10-22 15:30 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Jason Baron
2004-10-22 17:24 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hans Reiser
2004-10-23 19:01 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hilzinger Marcel
2004-10-23 19:39 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-23 19:49 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-24 17:42 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Alex Zarochentsev
2004-10-23 20:28 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hans Reiser
2004-10-24 14:41 ` Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando [this message]
2004-10-24 14:41 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Clifford Beshers
2004-10-24 14:45 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Con Kolivas
2004-10-24 14:54 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Clifford Beshers
2004-10-25 19:52 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2004-10-22 21:06 ` 2.6.9-mm1 (compile stats) John Cherry
2004-10-22 22:22 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Chuck Harding
2004-10-24 18:00 ` 2.6.9-mm1 john cooper
2004-10-25 21:24 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Chuck Harding
2004-10-23 0:12 ` pdc202xx_old broke boot [was Re: 2.6.9-mm1] J.A. Magallon
2004-10-23 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-10-23 0:22 ` J.A. Magallon
2004-10-23 0:34 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-27 22:19 ` [PATCH] " J.A. Magallon
2004-10-27 22:42 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-23 0:13 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Dominik Karall
2004-10-23 10:37 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Gerd Knorr
2004-10-23 0:44 ` [patch] 2.6.9-mm1: dvb-dibusb.c: remove unused code Adrian Bunk
2004-10-23 10:48 ` Patrick Boettcher
2004-10-23 7:22 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Avuton Olrich
2004-10-23 16:59 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Markus Törnqvist
2004-10-23 22:03 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Kasper Sandberg
2004-10-25 19:54 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2004-10-23 9:08 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Alexander Nyberg
2004-10-24 8:49 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-23 12:06 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Dominik Karall
2004-10-23 14:37 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2004-10-23 15:55 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hans Reiser
2004-10-23 16:57 ` 2.6.9-mm1 mjt
2004-10-23 16:57 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Markus Törnqvist
2004-10-24 2:37 ` 2.6.9-mm1 David Masover
2004-10-24 0:47 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Jan Engelhardt
2004-10-24 5:14 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Hans Reiser
2004-10-24 19:40 ` 2.6.9-mm1 David Masover
2004-10-25 20:07 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Bill Davidsen
2004-10-25 0:12 ` 2.6.9-mm1 J.A. Magallon
2004-10-25 11:47 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-25 22:31 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-25 22:56 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-25 23:14 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-25 23:47 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-25 23:36 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-26 1:34 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-26 3:04 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-26 15:48 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-26 16:40 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-10-26 20:01 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Randy.Dunlap
2004-10-26 6:49 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-26 17:58 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Alexander Nyberg
2004-10-26 20:19 ` 2.6.9-mm1 Andrew Morton
2004-10-31 4:17 ` 2.6.9-mm1 A little build system bug I guess Pedro Larroy
2004-10-31 8:10 ` Sam Ravnborg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-22 20:32 2.6.9-mm1 Matthieu Castet
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