From: John Richard Moser <nigelenki@comcast.net>
To: "Espen Fjellvær Olsen" <espenfjo@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: My thoughts on the "new development model"
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:01:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <417E74DD.6000203@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7aaed09104102214521e90c27c@mail.gmail.com>
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Espen Fjellvær Olsen wrote:
| This may come a bit late now, since the "new development model" was
| put through late this summer.
| But anyway i'm going to come with som thoughts about it.
|
| I think that 2.6 should be frozen from now on, just security related
| stuff should be merged.
| This would strengthen Linux's reputation as a stable and secure
| system, not a unstable and a system just used for fun.
| A 2.7 should be created where all new experimental stuff is merged
| into it, and where people could begin to think new again.
| New thoughts are good in all ways, it is for sure very much code in
| the current kernels that should be revised, rewritten and maybe marked
| as deprecated.
|
| :)
I agree fully.
I've been quite worried and annoyed. While I do think the newest
releases and the changes in 2.6.9 and .10 are damn cool, and i want
them, I also won't let go of PaX. PaX stopped at 2.6.7 because of
internal VM changes; the kernel's unstable state is making it an undue
amount of work for the PaX team to update PaX for the newest kernels.
If all the time is spent porting it up to the new VM changes, then there
is no time for bugfixes and improvements.
PaX is a core component of GrSecurity as well; as long as the PaX
project is halted at 2.6.7, GrSec can't pass 2.6.7. How many other
projects are going to sit at 2.6.7, or are going to spend too much time
up-porting and not enough time bugfixing and enhancing?
I do not propose freezing *now* if it's not convenient; I say you pick
what you want to finish up (maybe some of the Montavista stuff; I'd
personally like voluntary pre-empt and friends at least), get that in,
and slate any new developments for a 2.6.7 branch to be forked off
whenever is appropriate.
|
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| Mvh / Best regards
| Espen Fjellvær Olsen
| espenfjo@gmail.com
| Norway
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-10-26 16:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-10-22 20:03 My thoughts on the "new development model"(A bit late tho) Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-22 21:52 ` My thoughts on the "new development model" Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-22 22:12 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-10-23 12:55 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-10-24 3:04 ` Clemens Schwaighofer
2004-10-22 22:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-22 22:50 ` Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-22 23:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23 0:41 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-22 22:57 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-23 0:09 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23 2:40 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-25 21:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-25 22:08 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 16:12 ` Charles Shannon Hendrix
2004-10-26 16:53 ` Mark Nipper
2004-10-23 1:40 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-23 5:04 ` Greg KH
2004-10-26 1:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-23 5:52 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-23 14:18 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23 19:58 ` Kronos
2004-10-23 20:05 ` Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-22 22:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-10-22 23:21 ` Paul Fulghum
2004-10-22 23:43 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-23 8:01 ` Boris Bukowski
2004-10-23 13:27 ` My thoughts on the Alban Browaeys
2004-10-23 23:22 ` Boris Bukowski
2004-10-26 16:01 ` John Richard Moser [this message]
2004-10-26 16:44 ` My thoughts on the "new development model" John Richard Moser
2004-10-26 16:58 ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-26 18:53 ` Diego Calleja
2004-10-26 19:33 ` Paul Fulghum
2004-10-27 15:31 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-27 15:30 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-27 18:37 ` Hua Zhong
2004-10-27 21:39 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-27 22:51 ` That's it - " Hua Zhong
2004-10-27 16:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-27 19:27 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-26 18:01 ` Stephen Hemminger
2004-10-26 18:38 ` John Richard Moser
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-10-26 5:40 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 10:44 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-10-26 11:09 ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-26 12:08 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-10-26 19:03 ` Mathieu Segaud
2004-10-26 15:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 21:19 ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-10-27 3:05 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27 4:29 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-27 5:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-27 5:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 6:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-10-27 6:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 6:50 ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-27 6:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-11-16 16:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-27 13:48 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 14:57 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-27 15:35 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 19:46 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27 21:08 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 21:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-10-27 17:55 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 13:38 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 5:25 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-28 6:46 ` michael
2004-10-28 7:13 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-28 7:28 ` Hacksaw
2004-10-29 21:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2004-10-28 7:57 ` Massimo Cetra
2004-10-28 16:14 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-28 17:27 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-10-28 23:19 ` michael
2004-10-29 0:02 ` John Richard Moser
2004-10-27 4:26 ` Rik van Riel
2004-11-16 16:18 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-26 12:37 ` Barry K. Nathan
2004-10-26 14:40 ` Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2004-10-26 14:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 14:41 ` Gene Heskett
2004-10-26 14:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 15:27 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-26 15:54 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 17:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-26 16:32 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-26 17:37 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 0:00 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-27 0:24 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-10-27 0:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 0:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 2:45 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27 3:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-27 2:47 ` Marcos D. Marado Torres
2004-10-27 19:50 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-27 21:40 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 2:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-10-28 10:16 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 13:04 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-28 13:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-28 15:03 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-28 15:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-28 17:33 ` Alan Cox
2004-10-28 18:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-29 13:19 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-10-29 17:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-10-28 23:33 Chuck Ebbert
2004-10-28 23:53 ` William Lee Irwin III
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