From: Kaigai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
To: russell@coker.com.au
Cc: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>,
SELinux Mail List <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: [RFC & PATCH] inherited type definition.
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:16:31 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <425497FF.9090705@ak.jp.nec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200504070130.46902.russell@coker.com.au>
Hello,
>>I think that the required skill for tracking the security policy with
>>inherited type is same as one for the security policy writen with
>>attributes.
>
>
> When inspecting policy to determine it's operation you can see a list of
> attributes on a type declaration and know that each applies to the type.
>
> With inheritance as you describe you have exclusion rules such that you don't
> necessarily know that domain user_foo_t can access bar_t just because user_t
> can access bar_t and user_foo_t inherits.
Is it same as attributes work ?
A permission is often granted implicitly via attributes.
We have to check a type declaration and attached attributes,
when a permission is granted to types/attributes.
When a type is declared with attribute, we have to check this.
When a type is declared with parent type, we have to check this.
Both are essentially same, I think.
> If we want to make a change to the inheritance it doesn't change the access
> granted to just one domain or type but instead it operates on an unknown
> number of domains/types.
Sorry, what does mean 'make a change to the inheritance' ?
If it means that changing the permission attached to parent-type make effects
to some child-types, 'unknown number of domains/types' is over expression.
A permission granted via parent-type is limited to child-types explicitly
declared as an inherited type.
If it means that changing the relationship between parent and child make effects
to some child-types, it is fact that we have to grant all necessary permissions
to child-types from scrach. But I think it's redundant and needlessness.
This situation is similar trying to declare a new file-type without file_type attributes.
>>Does the example of user_t/user_r/user_ssh_t mean 'inherited domain'?
>>It has not been a significant issue yet, I think.
>>I think it's enough benefit to create a new type which can be accessed from
>>multi domains. (e.g Apache & FTPd shared directory)
>
>
> It does mean inherited domain.
>
> I want to write policy such that someone can load a binary policy module for a
> new user role professor_r which then automatically creates the domain
> professor_foo_t because the base policy has appropriate statements that are
> equivalent in functionality to the macros we currently use in macros/programs
> for such things.
Generally, any methods have strong and weak point.
I have no intention to disallow the availability of existing macros.
Each methods should be used for own strong point.
Thanks,
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KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-04-07 2:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-03-13 16:36 [RFC & PATCH] inherited type definition KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-14 13:17 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-14 13:50 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-14 15:13 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-14 15:22 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-14 16:01 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-14 19:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-03-14 20:10 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-14 17:26 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-14 18:10 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-14 18:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-15 11:50 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-15 14:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-16 4:42 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-16 10:00 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-16 14:05 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-17 9:32 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-17 13:55 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-17 14:57 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-21 10:07 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-21 15:59 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-23 8:17 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-23 13:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-16 7:31 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-04-18 12:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-04-18 16:57 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-24 11:06 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-24 12:34 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-04-06 12:49 ` Russell Coker
2005-04-06 14:50 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-04-06 15:30 ` Russell Coker
2005-04-06 18:23 ` Jim McCullough
2005-04-07 2:16 ` Kaigai Kohei [this message]
2005-04-06 17:55 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-14 16:38 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-15 11:47 ` KaiGai Kohei
2005-03-15 14:00 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-16 4:35 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-16 10:13 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-16 21:46 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-16 21:31 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-17 13:05 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-17 19:15 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-17 20:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-17 21:41 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-18 13:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-18 13:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2005-03-18 22:28 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-18 23:03 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-20 23:20 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-21 0:17 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-21 13:39 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-22 0:14 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-22 13:53 ` Karl MacMillan
2005-03-24 11:04 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-24 12:31 ` Kaigai Kohei
2005-03-24 22:19 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2005-03-24 22:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
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