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From: Steven Pratt <slpratt@austin.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: 2.6.12-rc2-mm3
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:03:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <425C1B94.1080308@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050412005045.5dc05310.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:

>Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>  
>
>>>> AS basically does its own TCQ strangulation, which IIRC involves things
>>>>        
>>>>
>> > >  like completing all reads before issuing new writes, and completing all
>> > >  reads from one process before reads from another. As well as the
>> > >  fundamental way that waiting for a 'dependant read' throttles TCQ.
>> > 
>> > My (mpt-fusion-based) workstation is still really slow when there's a lot
>> > of writeout happening.  Just from a quick test:
>> > 
>> > > 2.6.12-rc2, 	as,	tcq depth=2:		7.241 seconds
>> > > 2.6.12-rc2, 	as,	tcq depth=64:		12.172 seconds
>> > > 2.6.12-rc2+patch,as,	tcq depth=64:		7.199 seconds
>> > > 2.6.12-rc2, 	cfq2,	tcq depth=64:		much more than 5 minutes
>> > > 2.6.12-rc2, 	cfq3,	tcq depth=64:		much more than 5 minutes
>> > 
>> > 2.6.11-rc4-mm1, as, mpt-f			39.349 seconds
>> > 
>> > That was really really slow but had a sudden burst of read I/O at the end
>> > which made the thing look better than it really is.  I wouldn't have a clue
>> > what tag depth it's using, and it's the only mpt-fusion based machine I
>> > have handy...
>> > 
>>
>> Heh. 
>>    
>>
>
>Well with my current lineup on the mpt-fusion driver and no
>as-limit-queue-depth.patch that test takes 17 seconds.  With
>as-limit-queue-depth.patch it's down to 10 seconds.  Which is pretty darn
>good btw.  I assume from this:
>
>scsi0 : ioc0: LSI53C1030, FwRev=01030600h, Ports=1, MaxQ=222, IRQ=25
>scsi1 : ioc1: LSI53C1030, FwRev=01030600h, Ports=1, MaxQ=222, IRQ=26
>
>that it's using a tag depth of 222.
>
>	int			 req_depth;	/* Number of request frames */
>
>I wonder if that's true...
>
>
>One thing which changed is that this kernel now has the fixed-up mpt-fusion
>chipset tuning.  That doubles the IO bandwidth, which would pretty well
>account for that difference.  I'll wait and see how irritating things get
>under writeout load.
>
>Yes, we'll need to decide if we want to retain as-limit-queue-depth.patch
>and toss out some of the older AS logic which was designed to address the
>TCQ problem.
>
>Steve, could you help to identify a not-too-hard-to-set-up workload at
>which AS was particularly poor?  Thanks.
>  
>

AS with XFS was pretty bad on a couple of workloads.  random 4k reads 
and "metadata" which was 40%create, 40%append, 20%delete multithreaded 
workloads.  I'll try to run a few tests with and without this patch on 
my hardware setup over the next day or so and see how it does.  I have 
not really looked at AS performance since about 2.6.6/7.  Our database 
team recently re-checked IO Scheduler performance, and on the Ad Hoc 
Decision Support Workload we still saw a 15-20% lower throughput on 
RHEL4 with AS compared to other schedulers which were all within a 
couple of %.

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2005-04-13  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-04-11  8:25 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-11  8:56 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 J.A. Magallon
2005-04-11  9:43   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-11 21:59     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Borislav Petkov
2005-04-11 22:22       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12  4:20         ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Stas Sergeev
2005-04-12  4:27           ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12 19:37             ` [patch 0/3] 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Stas Sergeev
2005-04-12 19:42             ` [patch 1/3]: move config option for BAD_SYSCALL_EXIT Stas Sergeev
2005-04-12 19:47             ` [patch 2/3]: entry.S trap return fixes Stas Sergeev
2005-04-13  2:09               ` Andrew Morton
2005-04-13  3:18                 ` Stas Sergeev
2005-04-12 19:54             ` [patch 3/3]: fix BAD_SYSCALL_EXIT lockup Stas Sergeev
2005-04-12 12:22           ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Borislav Petkov
2005-04-11 10:34 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Jan Dittmer
2005-04-11 17:33 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benoit Boissinot
2005-04-11 19:11 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Jindrich Makovicka
2005-04-12  0:22   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12  8:21     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Jindrich Makovicka
2005-04-11 20:46 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Martin J. Bligh
2005-04-11 22:24   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benoit Boissinot
2005-04-12 22:32     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Martin J. Bligh
2005-04-11 21:05 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3: CONFIG_MODULES=n MTD compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-04-11 21:07   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-04-12  1:18 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-12  2:09   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-12  3:26   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-12  4:42     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-12  6:34       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-12 18:08         ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-12 22:40           ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-13  1:44             ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-15 18:23   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-15 23:23     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-17  8:40       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-24  0:01         ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-24  1:59           ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-24  2:15             ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-04-24  3:14               ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-24  4:25               ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-24  9:53               ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Oleg Nesterov
2005-04-24 23:11                 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Juergen Kreileder
2005-04-25  0:09                   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-05-03  6:29                 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-05-03 10:42                   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Oleg Nesterov
2005-04-12  5:00 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12  5:51   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Nick Piggin
2005-04-12  6:19     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12  6:49       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Nick Piggin
2005-04-12  7:50         ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-12 19:03           ` Steven Pratt [this message]
2005-04-12 17:01       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Steven Pratt
2005-04-12  7:06   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Jens Axboe
2005-04-12 11:32 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Ed Tomlinson
2005-04-12 11:39   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-14  0:15     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Ed Tomlinson
2005-04-14  0:20       ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-14  0:38         ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Ed Tomlinson
2005-04-14  0:54           ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-17 21:32 ` [-mm patch] fix "make mandocs" Adrian Bunk
2005-04-17 22:27 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-17 22:36 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-19  2:03 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3: hostap: do not #include .c files Adrian Bunk
2005-04-19  2:12   ` Jouni Malinen
2005-04-19  2:12     ` Jouni Malinen
2005-04-26  0:49 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Randy.Dunlap
2005-04-26  1:06   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Andrew Morton
2005-04-26  3:17   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Greg KH
2005-04-26 16:15     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Randy.Dunlap
2005-04-27 10:41 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-04-13 18:36 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Stas Sergeev
2005-04-13 20:04 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Ingo Molnar
2005-04-14 16:38   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Stas Sergeev
2005-04-17 23:39 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Mikael Pettersson
2005-04-18  9:56 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-18 11:05 ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-18 11:14   ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Arjan van de Ven
2005-04-18 14:10     ` 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Alexander Nyberg
2005-04-18 22:27 2.6.12-rc2-mm3 Mikael Pettersson

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