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From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>,
	George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	albert@users.sourceforge.net,
	Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.de>,
	David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>, Max Asbock <masbock@us.ibm.com>,
	mahuja@us.ibm.com, Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	donf@us.ibm.com, mpm@selenic.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IA64 implementation of timesource for new time of day subsystem
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:12:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <428722E3.6040202@superbug.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0505141251490.18681@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2005, john stultz wrote:
> 
> 
>>I look forward to your comments and feedback.
> 
> 
> Here is the implementation of the IA64 timesources for the new time of 
> day subsystem.
> 
> This is quite straighforward. Thanks John. However, the ITC
> interpolator can no longer use MMIO in SMP situations since there is no 
> provision for jitter compensation in the new time of day subsystem. I have
> implemented that via a function now which will slow down clock access
> for non SGI IA64 hardware significantly since it will not be able to use
> the fastcall anymore.
> 
> I am working on the fastcall but I would need a couple of changes
> to the core code to make the following symbols non-static since they
> will need to be accessed from the fast syscall handler:
> 
> timesource
> system_time
> wall_time_offset
> offset_base
> 

Will this mean that Linux will have a monotonic time source?
For media players we need a timesource that does not change under any
circumstances. e.g. User changes the clock time, the monotonic time
source should not change. The monotonic time source should just start at
0 at power on, and continually increase accurately over time. I.e. A
very accurate "uptime" measurement.

James

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From: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>
Cc: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tim Schmielau <tim@physik3.uni-rostock.de>,
	George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>,
	albert@users.sourceforge.net,
	Ulrich Windl <ulrich.windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.de>,
	David Mosberger <davidm@hpl.hp.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	paulus@samba.org, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	keith maanthey <kmannth@us.ibm.com>,
	Chris McDermott <lcm@us.ibm.com>, Max Asbock <masbock@us.ibm.com>,
	mahuja@us.ibm.com, Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren@dvhart.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	donf@us.ibm.com, mpm@selenic.com, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IA64 implementation of timesource for new time of day subsystem
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:22:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <428722E3.6040202@superbug.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0505141251490.18681@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 13 May 2005, john stultz wrote:
> 
> 
>>I look forward to your comments and feedback.
> 
> 
> Here is the implementation of the IA64 timesources for the new time of 
> day subsystem.
> 
> This is quite straighforward. Thanks John. However, the ITC
> interpolator can no longer use MMIO in SMP situations since there is no 
> provision for jitter compensation in the new time of day subsystem. I have
> implemented that via a function now which will slow down clock access
> for non SGI IA64 hardware significantly since it will not be able to use
> the fastcall anymore.
> 
> I am working on the fastcall but I would need a couple of changes
> to the core code to make the following symbols non-static since they
> will need to be accessed from the fast syscall handler:
> 
> timesource
> system_time
> wall_time_offset
> offset_base
> 

Will this mean that Linux will have a monotonic time source?
For media players we need a timesource that does not change under any
circumstances. e.g. User changes the clock time, the monotonic time
source should not change. The monotonic time source should just start at
0 at power on, and continually increase accurately over time. I.e. A
very accurate "uptime" measurement.

James

  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-15  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-14  0:16 [RFC][PATCH (1/7)] new timeofday subsystem (v A5) john stultz
2005-05-14  0:17 ` [RFC][PATCH (2/7)] new timeofday i386 arch specific changes " john stultz
2005-05-14  0:19   ` [RFC][PATCH (3/7)] new timeofday x86-64 " john stultz
2005-05-14  0:20     ` [RFC][PATCH (4/7)] new timeofday i386 and x86-64 timesources " john stultz
2005-05-14  0:22       ` [RFC][PATCH (5/7)] new timeofday ia64,ppc32,ppc64 and s390 arch specific hooks " john stultz
2005-05-14  0:23         ` [RFC][PATCH (6/7)] new timeofday ia64,ppc32,ppc64 and s390 timesources " john stultz
2005-05-14  0:27           ` [RFC][PATCH (7/7)] new timeofday i386 vsyscall proof of concept " john stultz
2005-05-16 21:53             ` john stultz
2005-05-14 19:55         ` IA64 implementation of timesource for new time of day subsystem Christoph Lameter
2005-05-14 19:55           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-15  9:12           ` James Courtier-Dutton [this message]
2005-05-15 10:22             ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-05-15 10:17             ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-15 10:17               ` Andi Kleen
2005-05-16 15:30               ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-16 15:30                 ` Chris Friesen
2005-05-16 17:34           ` john stultz
2005-05-16 17:34             ` john stultz
2005-05-16 18:09             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 18:09               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 18:45               ` john stultz
2005-05-16 18:45                 ` john stultz
2005-05-16 18:55                 ` john stultz
2005-05-16 18:55                   ` john stultz
2005-05-16 19:24                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 19:24                   ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 19:29                   ` David Mosberger
2005-05-16 19:29                     ` David Mosberger
2005-05-16 19:50                     ` john stultz
2005-05-16 19:50                       ` john stultz
2005-05-16 20:27                       ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 20:27                         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 20:53                         ` john stultz
2005-05-16 20:53                           ` john stultz
2005-05-16 20:58                           ` David Mosberger
2005-05-16 20:58                             ` David Mosberger
2005-05-16 21:35                             ` john stultz
2005-05-16 21:35                               ` john stultz
2005-05-16 21:53                               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-16 21:53                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-05-17  8:05                     ` Ulrich Windl
2005-05-17  8:05                       ` Ulrich Windl
2005-05-16 18:52     ` [RFC][PATCH (3/7)] new timeofday x86-64 specific changes (v A5) john stultz
2005-05-17 23:33 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] new timeofday-based soft-timer subsystem Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-17 23:34   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] move arch-specific timeofday core to asm Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-17 23:36   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] convert soft-timer subsystem to timerintervals Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-18  8:21     ` [RFC][UPDATE PATCH " Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-18 15:59       ` Jonathan Corbet
2005-05-18 17:00         ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-17 23:37   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] convert sys_nanosleep() to use new soft-timer subsystem Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-17 23:38   ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] support new soft-timer subsystem on non-NEWTOD archs Nishanth Aravamudan
2005-05-19 23:29   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] new timeofday-based soft-timer subsystem Nishanth Aravamudan

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