From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Jonathan Briggs <jbriggs@esoft.com>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
"Alexander G. M. Smith" <agmsmith@rogers.com>,
leocomerford@gmail.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
ninja@slaphack.com, Nate Diller <ndiller@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:27:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <429CAC86.3080308@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1117559594.13252.26.camel@localhost>
Well,. if you allow multiple true names, then you start to resemble
something I suggested a few years ago, in which I outlined a taxonomy of
links, and suggested that some links would count towards the reference
count and some would not.
Of course, that does nothing for the cycle problem......
How are cycles handled for symlinks currently?
Hans
Jonathan Briggs wrote:
>Either that isn't allowed, or it immediately vanishes from all
>directories.
>
>If deleting by OID isn't allowed, then every name property must be
>removed in order to delete the file.
>
>Personally, I would allow deleting the OID. It would be a convenient
>way to be sure every instance of a file was deleted.
>
>On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 09:59 -0700, Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>
>>What happens when you unlink the True Name?
>>
>>Hans
>>
>>Jonathan Briggs wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>You can avoid cycles by redefining the problem.
>>>
>>>Every file or "data object" has one single True Name which is their
>>>inode or OID. Each data object then has one or more "names" as
>>>properties. Names are either single strings with slash separators for
>>>directories, or each directory element is a unique object in an object
>>>list. Directories then become queries that return the set of objects
>>>holding that directory name. The query results are of course cached and
>>>updated whenever a name property changes.
>>>
>>>Now there are no cycles, although a naive Unix "find" program could get
>>>stuck in a loop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-05-31 18:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-05-28 0:46 File as a directory - Ordered Relations Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-28 4:56 ` David Masover
2005-05-28 19:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 17:58 ` File as a directory - VFS Changes Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-30 8:25 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-30 11:00 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 0:20 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-31 9:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 15:04 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 16:00 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 16:30 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-31 16:55 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 16:59 ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 17:13 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 18:27 ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-05-31 21:01 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 21:08 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 22:36 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 23:01 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 10:39 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 10:43 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 14:06 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 14:42 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 15:40 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 17:27 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 19:03 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-02 10:38 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02 18:35 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-02 23:54 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-03 17:57 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-04 19:45 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-04 20:13 ` David Masover
2005-06-07 5:08 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-03 6:44 ` Faraz Ahmed
2005-05-31 18:23 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 18:32 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-02 1:27 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-02 7:46 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-02 9:11 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02 17:23 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-01 2:11 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-01 10:58 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02 1:58 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-02 10:03 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-03 3:35 ` Performance Impacts of Graph Cycles due to Multiple Parents Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-03 11:15 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-07 2:04 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-30 8:19 ` File as a directory - Ordered Relations Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 16:46 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 17:07 ` Hans Reiser
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2005-06-02 14:46 File as a directory - VFS Changes Faraz Ahmed
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