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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
Cc: Jonathan Briggs <jbriggs@esoft.com>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	"Alexander G. M. Smith" <agmsmith@rogers.com>,
	leocomerford@gmail.com, reiserfs-list@namesys.com,
	ninja@slaphack.com, Nate Diller <ndiller@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: File as a directory - VFS Changes
Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 10:57:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42A099F6.20208@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17055.39986.10130.284697@gargle.gargle.HOWL>

Nikita Danilov wrote:

>
>But cycles are "solvable" in current file systems too: they simply do
>not exist there.
>  
>
Yes, but Nikita, cycles represent semantic functionality that has value
because being able to embody more expressions means more power of
expression.  If some way can be found to allow them, then functionality
is increased. Separating links that increase reference count from links
that merely point (ala hard vs. sym links) is one approach.  If there
was effective enough for real world use cycle detection, that would be
better.

> > 
> > If speeding up rename was very important, you can replace every pathname
> > component with a indirect reference instead of using simple strings.
> > Changing directory levels is still difficult.
>
>It is not only speed that will be extremely hard to achieve in that
>design; atomicity (in the face of possible crash during rename), and
>concurrency control look problematic too.
>
> > 
> > -- 
> > Jonathan Briggs <jbriggs@esoft.com>
> > eSoft, Inc.
>
>Nikita.
>
>
>  
>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-03 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-28  0:46 File as a directory - Ordered Relations Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-28  4:56 ` David Masover
2005-05-28 19:42   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-29 17:58     ` File as a directory - VFS Changes Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-30  8:25       ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-30 11:00       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31  0:20         ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-31  9:34           ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 15:04             ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 16:00               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 16:30               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-05-31 16:55                 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 16:59                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 17:13                     ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 18:27                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 21:01                         ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 21:08                           ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 22:36                             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 23:01                               ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 10:39                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 10:43                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 14:06                                     ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 14:42                                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 15:40                                         ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-01 17:27                                           ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-01 19:03                                             ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-02 10:38                                               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02 18:35                                                 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-06-02 23:54                                                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-03 17:57                                                     ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-06-04 19:45                                                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-04 20:13                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-07  5:08                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-03  6:44                                                   ` Faraz Ahmed
2005-05-31 18:23                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-05-31 18:32                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-02  1:27                       ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-02  7:46                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-02  9:11                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02 17:23                         ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-01  2:11             ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-01 10:58               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-02  1:58                 ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-02 10:03                   ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-03  3:35                     ` Performance Impacts of Graph Cycles due to Multiple Parents Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-06-03 11:15                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-07  2:04                         ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-05-30  8:19     ` File as a directory - Ordered Relations Hans Reiser
2005-05-31 16:46       ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-05-31 17:07         ` Hans Reiser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-06-02 14:46 File as a directory - VFS Changes Faraz Ahmed

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