From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@telenet.be>,
Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
netfilter-devel@manty.net, netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ebtables-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
rankincj@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.12: connection tracking broken?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:02:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B9FC19.2000604@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622214920.GA13519@gondor.apana.org.au>
Herbert Xu schrieb:
>
> Longer term though we should obsolete the ipt_physdev module. The
> rationale there is that this creates a precedence that we can't
> possibly maintain in a consistent way. For example, we don't have
> a target that matches by hardware MAC address. If you wanted to
> do that, you'd hook into the arptables interface rather than deferring
> iptables after the creation of the hardware header.
>
> This can be done in two stages to minimise pain for people already
> using it:
>
> 1) We rewrite ipt_physdev to do the lookups necessary to get the output
> physical devices through the bridge layer. Of course this may not be
> the real output device due to changes in the environment. So this should
> be accompanied with a warning that users should switch to ebt.
>
> 2) We remove the iptables deferring since ipt_physdev will no longer need
> it.
>
> 3) After a set period (say a year or so) we remove ipt_physdev altogether.
For my local setup it is already a minor PITA that there is no tool
combining the functionality of arptables, ebtables and iptables, but
I can cope with the help of marking and ipt_physdev. If that doesn't
work reliably anymore, I'll be stuck.
Wasn't someone working on a unified framework for *tables? IIRC that
would have been pkttables, but Harald(?) said there was not much
code there yet.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
--
http://www.hailfinger.org/
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From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2005@gmx.net>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@telenet.be>,
Bart De Schuymer <bdschuym@pandora.be>,
netfilter-devel@manty.net, netfilter-devel@lists.netfilter.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
ebtables-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, rankincj@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: 2.6.12: connection tracking broken?
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:02:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42B9FC19.2000604@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050622214920.GA13519@gondor.apana.org.au>
Herbert Xu schrieb:
>
> Longer term though we should obsolete the ipt_physdev module. The
> rationale there is that this creates a precedence that we can't
> possibly maintain in a consistent way. For example, we don't have
> a target that matches by hardware MAC address. If you wanted to
> do that, you'd hook into the arptables interface rather than deferring
> iptables after the creation of the hardware header.
>
> This can be done in two stages to minimise pain for people already
> using it:
>
> 1) We rewrite ipt_physdev to do the lookups necessary to get the output
> physical devices through the bridge layer. Of course this may not be
> the real output device due to changes in the environment. So this should
> be accompanied with a warning that users should switch to ebt.
>
> 2) We remove the iptables deferring since ipt_physdev will no longer need
> it.
>
> 3) After a set period (say a year or so) we remove ipt_physdev altogether.
For my local setup it is already a minor PITA that there is no tool
combining the functionality of arptables, ebtables and iptables, but
I can cope with the help of marking and ipt_physdev. If that doesn't
work reliably anymore, I'll be stuck.
Wasn't someone working on a unified framework for *tables? IIRC that
would have been pkttables, but Harald(?) said there was not much
code there yet.
Regards,
Carl-Daniel
--
http://www.hailfinger.org/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-23 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-18 12:43 2.6.12: connection tracking broken? Chris Rankin
2005-06-18 14:57 ` Jan Engelhardt
2005-06-18 15:14 ` Tobias DiPasquale
2005-06-18 17:16 ` Chris Rankin
2005-06-20 7:19 ` Harald Welte
2005-06-20 7:19 ` Harald Welte
2005-06-18 19:25 ` Santiago Garcia Mantinan
2005-06-18 22:12 ` Santiago Garcia Mantinan
2005-06-19 13:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-19 13:05 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 0:05 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20 0:05 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20 0:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-20 0:18 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-20 0:50 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20 0:50 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-20 2:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 2:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 6:39 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-20 12:15 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 12:15 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 18:46 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-20 18:46 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-20 18:57 ` Phil Oester
2005-06-20 18:57 ` Phil Oester
2005-06-20 23:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 23:27 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 23:22 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-20 23:22 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-21 7:19 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 7:19 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 15:16 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-21 15:16 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <42B82F35.3040909-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2005-06-21 20:46 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 20:46 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-21 21:23 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-21 22:32 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-21 22:34 ` Chris Wright
2005-06-22 0:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22 22:58 ` Chris Rankin
2005-06-23 17:42 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 19:49 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-24 8:39 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-28 23:07 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-22 0:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22 0:45 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-22 21:49 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-22 21:49 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-23 0:02 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [this message]
2005-06-23 0:02 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2005-06-23 3:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 3:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 6:27 ` [Ebtables-devel] " Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-23 6:27 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-23 3:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 3:26 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-23 3:53 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-23 3:53 ` Herbert Xu
2005-06-23 6:23 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-23 6:23 ` Bart De Schuymer
2005-06-27 8:32 ` Harald Welte
2005-06-27 8:32 ` Harald Welte
2005-06-27 11:46 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-06-27 11:46 ` Patrick McHardy
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