From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:16:03 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42C14D93.7090303@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42C14662.40809@shadowen.org>
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>
>> #define PG_free 20 /* Page is on the free lists */
>>+#define PG_freeing 21 /* PG_refcount about to be freed */
>
>
> Wow this needs two new page bits. That might be a problem ongoing.
> There are only 24 of these puppies and this takes us to just two
> remaining. Do we really need _two_ to track free?
>
Yeah they are kind of different. PG_freeing isn't a really good
description for it. Basically it is set to guarantee a page won't
gain any more references (real, not speculative) than what page_count
returns.
I'm in the process of recovering one of those with an earlier set
of patches (PG_reserved).
> One obvious area of overlap might be the PG_nosave_free which seems to
> be set on free pages for software suspend. Perhaps that and PG_free
> will be equivalent in intent (though maintained differently) and allow
> us to recover a bit?
>
PG_free can't be shared with anything else, unfortunately. It doesn't
need to be an atomic flag though, so it can be an "impossible"
combination of flags.
> There are a couple of bits which imply ownership such as PG_slab,
> PG_swapcache and PG_reserved which to my mind are all exclusive.
> Perhaps those plus the PG_free could be combined into a owner field. I
> am unsure if the PG_freeing can be 'backed out' if not it may also combine?
>
I think there are a a few ways that bits can be reclaimed if we
start digging. swsusp uses 2 which seems excessive though may be
fully justified. Can PG_private be replaced by (!page->private)?
Can filesystems easily stop using PG_checked?
OK, I'll cut the hand-waving: PG_free used to be derived from
PG_private && page_count == 0, so it could instead be
PG_active && !PG_lru quite easily AFAIKS. If this patchset ever
looks like being merged you can take me up on it ;)
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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:16:03 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <42C14D93.7090303@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42C14662.40809@shadowen.org>
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>
>> #define PG_free 20 /* Page is on the free lists */
>>+#define PG_freeing 21 /* PG_refcount about to be freed */
>
>
> Wow this needs two new page bits. That might be a problem ongoing.
> There are only 24 of these puppies and this takes us to just two
> remaining. Do we really need _two_ to track free?
>
Yeah they are kind of different. PG_freeing isn't a really good
description for it. Basically it is set to guarantee a page won't
gain any more references (real, not speculative) than what page_count
returns.
I'm in the process of recovering one of those with an earlier set
of patches (PG_reserved).
> One obvious area of overlap might be the PG_nosave_free which seems to
> be set on free pages for software suspend. Perhaps that and PG_free
> will be equivalent in intent (though maintained differently) and allow
> us to recover a bit?
>
PG_free can't be shared with anything else, unfortunately. It doesn't
need to be an atomic flag though, so it can be an "impossible"
combination of flags.
> There are a couple of bits which imply ownership such as PG_slab,
> PG_swapcache and PG_reserved which to my mind are all exclusive.
> Perhaps those plus the PG_free could be combined into a owner field. I
> am unsure if the PG_freeing can be 'backed out' if not it may also combine?
>
I think there are a a few ways that bits can be reclaimed if we
start digging. swsusp uses 2 which seems excessive though may be
fully justified. Can PG_private be replaced by (!page->private)?
Can filesystems easily stop using PG_checked?
OK, I'll cut the hand-waving: PG_free used to be derived from
PG_private && page_count == 0, so it could instead be
PG_active && !PG_lru quite easily AFAIKS. If this patchset ever
looks like being merged you can take me up on it ;)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-06-28 13:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-06-27 6:29 [rfc] lockless pagecache Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:29 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 1] mm: PG_free flag Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:32 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:33 ` [patch 3] radix tree: lookup_slot Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 4] radix tree: lockless readside Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:34 ` [patch 5] mm: lockless pagecache lookups Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:35 ` [patch 6] mm: spinlock tree_lock Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 14:12 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-27 14:12 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 0:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 0:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 0:56 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 1:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:42 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 4:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 4:06 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 4:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 4:50 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:08 ` David S. Miller
2005-06-28 5:08 ` [patch 2] mm: speculative get_page, " David S. Miller, Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 14:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 14:19 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 15:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 17:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 23:10 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 23:10 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 21:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-06-28 21:32 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-06-28 22:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 22:17 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-28 12:45 ` Andy Whitcroft
2005-06-28 12:45 ` Andy Whitcroft
2005-06-28 13:16 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2005-06-28 13:16 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 16:02 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-28 16:02 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 18:43 ` Dave Hansen
2005-06-29 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 21:22 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-29 16:31 ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-27 6:43 ` VFS scalability (was: [rfc] lockless pagecache) Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 6:43 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:33 ` VFS scalability Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:33 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 7:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-27 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:03 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 7:46 ` [rfc] lockless pagecache Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 7:46 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:02 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:02 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-27 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:28 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 8:56 ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-27 8:56 ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-27 9:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 9:04 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 18:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 18:14 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 18:50 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-06-27 18:50 ` Badari Pulavarty
2005-06-27 19:05 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 19:05 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 19:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 19:42 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-06-27 19:42 ` Chen, Kenneth W
2005-07-05 15:11 ` Sonny Rao
2005-07-05 15:11 ` Sonny Rao
2005-07-05 15:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-05 15:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-07-05 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-07-05 15:37 ` Sonny Rao
2005-06-27 13:17 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-06-27 13:17 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-06-28 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 0:32 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 1:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-28 1:26 ` William Lee Irwin III
2005-06-27 14:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-27 14:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-27 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-27 17:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-29 10:49 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-06-29 10:49 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-06-29 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-29 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-30 3:32 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2005-06-30 3:32 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
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