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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
Cc: mingz@ele.uri.edu, Peter van Hardenberg <pvh@uvic.ca>,
	reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: Versioning Plugin
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:54:01 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43767289.1000402@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <437662CC.9010307@slaphack.com>

David Masover wrote:

>Ming Zhang wrote:
>  
>
>>On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 16:56 -0800, Peter van Hardenberg wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>On November 11, 2005 05:59 am, John Gilmore wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Does anybody remember GoBack? It was a versioning
>>>>system for windows 95/98 that was incredibly flexible and useful. Tracked
>>>>all changes to the whole disk. Old versions of a file? no problem. grab an
>>>>old version of a directory for referance temporarily? easy. Got a virus?
>>>>revert the whole HD, and then grab the newer copies of your documents and
>>>>saved games as needed.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>My thoughts on this:
>>>
>>>The versioning would be an audit plugin. When the file is modified, tag the 
>>>current version, copy it into a sub-directory (oh, I don't know, say 
>>>file/.revisions/<number/date>), and disable write access to it. You might not 
>>>even need extended filesystem attributes for this, but they would be handy 
>>>for tagging particular versions.
>>>      
>>>
>>if a file is opened, modified 2 times, then closed. u will only generate
>>1 version right? so "When the file is modified" is inaccurate.
>>    
>>
one could do it for every file close, and that could be a state option
for the versioning plugin, but most users will want to do it everytime
they touch filename/..../checkin

>
>How about "When the transaction was completed?"  Why does it matter?
>
>  
>
>>>Copy-on-write would make this action extremely cheap, only adding a couple of 
>>>extra writes to make it work.
>>>      
>>>
>>add 1 line at the beginning of a 100MB text file will make this uncheap.
>>    
>>
>
>Who has to work with 100 meg text files?  And why has this person not
>broken them down into 100 kilobyte text files?  Storage efficiency isn't
>really an issue there...
>  
>
you need cross-version compression for this case. 

>Anyway, I think the main win is from copy-on-write for the whole file.
>
>
>
>  
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-12 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-11 13:59 Slowdown is gone & apt-get works with updated reiser4. So nevermind John Gilmore
2005-11-11 21:22 ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 22:06 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-11-12  3:07   ` michael chang
2005-11-12  6:38     ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12  9:06       ` John Gilmore
2005-11-12 20:57         ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-12 21:28         ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  0:55           ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 12:18             ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-13 12:25               ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-13 12:29               ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 13:12                 ` Thomas Kuther
2005-11-13 14:05                   ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-14 17:48                     ` Pat Double
2005-11-14 20:22                       ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 14:05                   ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-11-14 19:41         ` More Slowdown Craig Shelley
2005-11-14 19:53           ` jp
2005-11-14 20:47           ` Christian Iversen
2005-11-15 14:27             ` Craig Shelley
2005-11-15 18:04               ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-15 18:42                 ` Craig Shelley
     [not found]                   ` <437AF653.9040001@namesys.com>
2005-11-16  9:33                     ` Craig Shelley
2005-11-17  3:08               ` michael chang
2005-11-17  4:49                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-17 12:02                   ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-17 12:40                     ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-11-17 10:34                       ` John Gilmore
2005-11-17 21:12                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-18 20:45                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-17  8:56                 ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-11-17  9:36                 ` PFC
2005-11-17 21:08                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-19  4:44                     ` michael chang
2005-11-12  0:56 ` Versioning Plugin Peter van Hardenberg
2005-11-12  2:24   ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12 14:06   ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-12 21:46     ` David Masover
2005-11-12 22:05       ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:56         ` David Masover
2005-11-13  3:05           ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  4:23             ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  3:28           ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12 22:54       ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-11-13  0:57         ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  1:55           ` michael chang
2005-11-13  1:56             ` michael chang
2005-11-13  2:13               ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  3:03               ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  2:13             ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:27             ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  2:32               ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:53                 ` michael chang
2005-11-13  2:56                   ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-12 22:57   ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-12 23:35     ` Hans Reiser

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