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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: John Gilmore <jgilmore@glycou.com>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: More Slowdown
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:12:54 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <437CF256.2010406@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200511171035.00148.jgilmore@glycou.com>

6% fragmentation is enormous.  You very much need the repacker we have
not yet written.....

remember that one seek and rotate takes ~12 ms, and during that time you
could transfer 50MB*.012 bytes.....

Hans

John Gilmore wrote:

>On Thursday 17 November 2005 12:40, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote:
>  
>
>>Please try whether the attached patch improves anything. It simplifies
>>fsync by avoid commiting of transactions which do not modify file being
>>fsync-ed.
>>
>>The patch applied to 2.6.14-mm2 with warnings, but that can be ignored.
>>    
>>
>
>I haven't tried this patch yet, but I did try the earlier 'disable fsync 
>completely' patch. In fact, I'm using it right now.
>
>It doesn't help. Therefore, your patch probably won't help either.
>
>OK, disabling fsync does help a *little* bit. But I think that the issue (for 
>me, anyway) isn't sync per se, it's just flat-out access time. Deleteing lots 
>of small files is EXTREMELY slow, but even reading files is slower than it 
>should be. It took no less that 10 minutes to delete an old kernel source 
>tree, for instance. 
>
>It's related to fragmentation, I think. I didn't really notice any speed 
>problems until my hard drive got to about 95% (or so) full. But they haven't 
>gone away, even though usage is now down around 54%.
>
>Hrm... I should be able to check that...
>
>
>About an hour later...
>
>So maybe I was wrong. 6.5% data fragmentation doesn't seem that high. But 
>19.8% tree fragmentation does seem a bit high. 
>
>How should this data be interpreted?
>
>
>#measurefs.reiser4 -T /dev/mapper/e-h -f
>measurefs.reiser4 1.0.5
>Copyright (C) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 by Hans Reiser, licensing governed by 
>reiser4progs/COPYING.
>
>Tree fragmentation ... done
>0.197747
>
>#measurefs.reiser4 -S -D /dev/mapper/e-h -f
>measurefs.reiser4 1.0.5
>Copyright (C) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 by Hans Reiser, licensing governed by 
>reiser4progs/COPYING.
>
>Data fragmentation ... done
>0.065593
>Tree statistics ... done
>Packing statistics:
>  Formatted nodes:    3721.29b (90.85%)
>  Branch nodes:       1734.57b (42.35%)
>  Twig nodes:         2886.97b (70.48%)
>  Leaf nodes:         3814.82b (93.14%)
>
>Node statistics:
>  Total nodes:        8543553
>  Formatted nodes:     146354
>  Unformatted nodes:  8397199
>  Branch nodes:           292
>  Twig nodes:           10542
>  Leaf nodes:         8532719
>
>Item statistics:
>  Total items:         637352
>  Nodeptr items:       146353
>  Statdata items:     191218
>  Direntry items:       17512
>  Tail items:          245018
>  Extent items:         36869
>
>
>#
>
>
>  
>


  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-17 21:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-11 13:59 Slowdown is gone & apt-get works with updated reiser4. So nevermind John Gilmore
2005-11-11 21:22 ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-11 22:06 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-11-12  3:07   ` michael chang
2005-11-12  6:38     ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12  9:06       ` John Gilmore
2005-11-12 20:57         ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-12 21:28         ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  0:55           ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 12:18             ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-13 12:25               ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-13 12:29               ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 13:12                 ` Thomas Kuther
2005-11-13 14:05                   ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-14 17:48                     ` Pat Double
2005-11-14 20:22                       ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-13 14:05                   ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-11-14 19:41         ` More Slowdown Craig Shelley
2005-11-14 19:53           ` jp
2005-11-14 20:47           ` Christian Iversen
2005-11-15 14:27             ` Craig Shelley
2005-11-15 18:04               ` Laurent Riffard
2005-11-15 18:42                 ` Craig Shelley
     [not found]                   ` <437AF653.9040001@namesys.com>
2005-11-16  9:33                     ` Craig Shelley
2005-11-17  3:08               ` michael chang
2005-11-17  4:49                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-17 12:02                   ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-17 12:40                     ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-11-17 10:34                       ` John Gilmore
2005-11-17 21:12                         ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2005-11-18 20:45                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-17  8:56                 ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-11-17  9:36                 ` PFC
2005-11-17 21:08                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-19  4:44                     ` michael chang
2005-11-12  0:56 ` Versioning Plugin Peter van Hardenberg
2005-11-12  2:24   ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12 14:06   ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-12 21:46     ` David Masover
2005-11-12 22:05       ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:56         ` David Masover
2005-11-13  3:05           ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  4:23             ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  3:28           ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-12 22:54       ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  0:57         ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  1:55           ` michael chang
2005-11-13  1:56             ` michael chang
2005-11-13  2:13               ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  3:03               ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  2:13             ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:27             ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-13  2:32               ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-13  2:53                 ` michael chang
2005-11-13  2:56                   ` Ming Zhang
2005-11-12 22:57   ` Lares Moreau
2005-11-12 23:35     ` Hans Reiser
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-15 22:22 More Slowdown Thorsten Hirsch
2005-11-15 22:55 ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-15 23:09   ` Andreas Rosander
2005-11-15 23:13     ` Avuton Olrich
2005-11-15 23:23       ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-15 23:44       ` Craig Shelley
2005-11-16  0:45         ` David Masover
2005-11-16  1:40           ` Francesco Biscani
2005-11-16 12:18             ` Nikita Danilov
2005-11-16 13:28               ` John Gilmore
2005-11-16 17:28               ` David Masover
2005-11-17  0:46             ` evilninja
2005-11-16 18:18   ` Artur Makówka
2005-11-17 13:47 Hesse, Christian
2005-11-22 10:23 ` Marcel Hilzinger
2005-11-22 10:38   ` Sander
2005-11-22 10:44     ` Marcel Hilzinger
2005-11-22 14:29       ` David Masover
2005-11-22 15:01         ` Marcel Hilzinger
2005-11-22 19:15           ` David Masover
2005-11-22 23:17         ` Hans Reiser
2005-11-22 15:08       ` Sander
2005-11-22 11:34   ` Ingo Bormuth
2005-11-22 12:29     ` Artur Makówka

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