From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Gerd Knorr <kraxel@suse.de>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zwane Mwaikambo <zwane@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
Christopher Li <chrisl@vmware.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [patch] SMP alternatives
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:02:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43851116.9060103@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0511231502250.13959@g5.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> The third alternative is to know at link-time that the process never does
> anything threaded, but that needs more developer attention and
> non-standard setups, and you _will_ get it wrong (some library will create
> some thread without the developer even realizing). It also has the
> duplicated library overhead (but at least now the duplication is just
> twice, not "each process duplicates its own private pointer")
Small data point: In a lot of gcc-related build processes, the
configure/makefile junk passes '-pthread' to the compiler/linker.
So a lot of programs in Linux distros are already built this way. The
bigger problem is with libraries, which cannot know ahead of time
whether the app is threaded or not, and therefore must assume threaded.
A few libs do things like glibc, others (like GLib) have an explicit
mylib_thread_init() called at program startup.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-24 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-10 0:32 [PATCH 1/10] Cr4 is valid on some 486s Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-11 17:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-11 18:00 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2005-11-11 19:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-11 20:14 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-11 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 7:42 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-13 10:59 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13 17:26 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-13 17:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-13 19:00 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-13 19:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-13 19:41 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-13 19:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 21:32 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-14 7:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-13 19:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-13 19:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-13 20:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-14 15:06 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-14 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-14 19:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-14 19:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-14 20:34 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-14 20:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 14:12 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:01 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:04 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:10 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-15 16:19 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-15 16:34 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-15 16:24 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-15 16:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-15 16:16 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:08 ` Roland Dreier
2005-11-16 9:58 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-15 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-15 16:16 ` Dave Jones
2005-11-15 16:27 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-16 16:12 ` [RFC] SMP alternatives Gerd Knorr
2005-11-22 17:48 ` [patch] " Gerd Knorr
2005-11-22 18:01 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 15:12 ` Vincent Hanquez
2005-11-23 19:17 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 15:29 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-23 16:42 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 16:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 17:21 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 16:59 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:00 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 13:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 13:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 13:39 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 13:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 19:16 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:26 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 14:34 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 14:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 15:15 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 14:55 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 15:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 15:36 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 16:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 19:12 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:14 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 19:24 ` thockin
2005-11-24 19:29 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 19:44 ` thockin
2005-11-24 21:20 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-24 21:40 ` thockin
2005-11-24 23:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-24 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 22:48 ` thockin
2005-11-24 23:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-25 0:13 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-25 1:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 19:15 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-24 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-24 19:09 ` thockin
2005-11-24 14:30 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 17:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 18:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 17:26 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-23 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 19:31 ` jmerkey
2005-11-23 18:46 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 19:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 19:30 ` jmerkey
2005-11-23 21:44 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 21:13 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-23 22:23 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:30 ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-23 22:05 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:22 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:32 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:40 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 23:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 0:55 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-11-23 21:48 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:03 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 22:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-23 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 23:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-23 23:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 22:20 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 23:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-23 23:02 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-23 23:42 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-23 23:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 2:06 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2005-11-24 22:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2005-11-28 19:58 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-24 1:02 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2005-11-24 13:01 ` Pádraig Brady
2005-11-24 13:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-11-28 19:52 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-28 20:05 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 22:19 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-11-28 23:00 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 23:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 23:30 ` Zachary Amsden
2005-11-28 23:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-28 23:12 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-23 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2005-11-23 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-25 7:38 ` Chris Wedgwood
2005-11-25 17:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-28 20:25 ` Bill Davidsen
2005-11-25 20:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-24 3:23 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-11-24 3:31 ` Mikulas Patocka
2005-11-24 3:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-11-24 22:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2005-11-23 16:43 ` Gerd Knorr
2005-11-23 16:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-24 17:48 linux
2005-11-24 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-11-24 18:24 colin
2006-01-24 15:33 [PATCH] " Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-24 16:22 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-25 9:20 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-26 10:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-26 11:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-01-26 11:48 ` Pavel Machek
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