From: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
perex@suse.cz, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:13:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CFE4D4.2020900@cantab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hk6cw9h07.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0500,
> Lee Revell wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:28 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:22:23PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:46 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>3. no ALSA drivers for the same hardware
>>>>>
>>>>>SOUND_SB
>>>>
>>>>ALSA certainly does support "100% Sound Blaster compatibles (SB16/32/64,
>>>>ESS, Jazz16)", it would be a joke if it didn't...
>>>
>>>That's not the problem, I should have added an explanation:
>>>
>>>SOUND_SB (due to SOUND_KAHLUA and SOUND_PAS)
>>>
>>
>>Hmm. From sound/oss/kahlua.c:
>>
>>/*
>> * Initialisation code for Cyrix/NatSemi VSA1 softaudio
>> *
>> * (C) Copyright 2003 Red Hat Inc <alan@redhat.com>
>> *
>>
>>Why was a new OSS driver written and accepted at such a late date, when
>>OSS was already deprecated?
>
>
> You'll find out that it must be pretty easy to write kahlua driver for
> ALSA, too, if you look at kahlua.c. Just need a hardware to certify
> if this is really demanded...
Is this the audio on the Cyrix MediaGX (later National Semiconductor
Geode GXm)? I have access to hardware with that CPUs that I can test
with if someone wants to write an ALSA driver. Er... though I'm not sure
what VSA version the BIOS has.
I seem to recall that the Soundblaster 16 emulation provided by the VSA
code worked fine so perhaps this can be dropped entirely. I've not
touched a MediaGX based board in many years so I may be remembering
incorrectly. The Soundblaster 16 emulation does work fine on AMD Geode
GX1 boards.
David Vrabel
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From: David Vrabel <dvrabel@cantab.net>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
perex@suse.cz, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:13:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CFE4D4.2020900@cantab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hk6cw9h07.wl%tiwai@suse.de>
Takashi Iwai wrote:
> At Thu, 19 Jan 2006 13:54:45 -0500,
> Lee Revell wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 19:28 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 01:22:23PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 2006-01-19 at 18:46 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>3. no ALSA drivers for the same hardware
>>>>>
>>>>>SOUND_SB
>>>>
>>>>ALSA certainly does support "100% Sound Blaster compatibles (SB16/32/64,
>>>>ESS, Jazz16)", it would be a joke if it didn't...
>>>
>>>That's not the problem, I should have added an explanation:
>>>
>>>SOUND_SB (due to SOUND_KAHLUA and SOUND_PAS)
>>>
>>
>>Hmm. From sound/oss/kahlua.c:
>>
>>/*
>> * Initialisation code for Cyrix/NatSemi VSA1 softaudio
>> *
>> * (C) Copyright 2003 Red Hat Inc <alan@redhat.com>
>> *
>>
>>Why was a new OSS driver written and accepted at such a late date, when
>>OSS was already deprecated?
>
>
> You'll find out that it must be pretty easy to write kahlua driver for
> ALSA, too, if you look at kahlua.c. Just need a hardware to certify
> if this is really demanded...
Is this the audio on the Cyrix MediaGX (later National Semiconductor
Geode GXm)? I have access to hardware with that CPUs that I can test
with if someone wants to write an ALSA driver. Er... though I'm not sure
what VSA version the BIOS has.
I seem to recall that the Soundblaster 16 emulation provided by the VSA
code worked fine so perhaps this can be dropped entirely. I've not
touched a MediaGX based board in many years so I may be remembering
incorrectly. The Soundblaster 16 emulation does work fine on AMD Geode
GX1 boards.
David Vrabel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-19 19:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-19 17:46 RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 17:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 18:22 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 18:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 18:28 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 18:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 19:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 19:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 20:22 ` Frédéric L. W. Meunier
2006-01-19 20:45 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:03 ` Alistair John Strachan
2006-01-20 14:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-21 0:30 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 9:06 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-19 18:39 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 18:54 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 18:54 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-19 19:04 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-19 19:04 ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-01-19 19:01 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 19:01 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:09 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:09 ` [Alsa-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-20 10:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-20 13:14 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-20 13:14 ` [Alsa-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-20 14:30 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-20 14:30 ` [Alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2006-01-20 10:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-19 19:13 ` David Vrabel [this message]
2006-01-19 19:13 ` [Alsa-devel] " David Vrabel
2006-01-19 22:11 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:11 ` [Alsa-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-19 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 19:15 ` dealing with under runs? Dave Raggett
2006-01-20 8:03 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-19 18:22 ` RFC: OSS driver removal, a slightly different approach Lee Revell
2006-01-19 18:47 ` [Alsa-devel] " Peter Zubaj
2006-01-20 14:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 14:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-20 16:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 16:30 ` [Alsa-devel] " Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 17:44 ` Peter Zubaj
2006-01-21 8:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-21 8:58 ` [Alsa-devel] " Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-22 15:34 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2006-01-21 2:27 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 2:27 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-21 9:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-21 9:01 ` [Alsa-devel] " Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-19 20:24 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-19 20:24 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-19 20:43 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 20:43 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-19 21:50 ` Bill Nottingham
2006-01-19 21:50 ` [Alsa-devel] " Bill Nottingham
2006-01-19 22:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 22:18 ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 22:18 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:18 ` [Alsa-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:38 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:38 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:42 ` Dave Jones
2006-01-19 22:42 ` [Alsa-devel] " Dave Jones
2006-01-19 22:51 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:51 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-20 1:13 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-20 1:13 ` [Alsa-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-01-20 1:34 ` Dave Jones
2006-01-20 1:34 ` [Alsa-devel] " Dave Jones
2006-01-20 11:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-21 0:29 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 0:29 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-21 0:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-21 0:57 ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2006-01-21 1:03 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 1:03 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-20 11:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-21 1:01 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 1:01 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-20 8:21 ` Dag Nygren
2006-01-20 8:21 ` [Alsa-devel] " Dag Nygren
2006-01-21 3:52 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-21 3:52 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 22:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-20 2:55 ` Erik Andersen
2006-01-20 2:55 ` Erik Andersen
2006-01-21 1:53 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-21 1:53 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 22:45 ` Lee Revell
2006-01-19 22:45 ` [Alsa-devel] " Lee Revell
2006-01-20 3:46 ` Rene Herman
2006-01-20 3:46 ` Rene Herman
2006-01-20 7:04 ` Brent Cook
2006-01-20 7:04 ` [Alsa-devel] " Brent Cook
2006-01-21 0:55 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-21 0:55 ` Stuffed Crust
2006-01-20 14:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 14:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-01-20 8:25 ` Clemens Ladisch
2006-01-20 8:25 ` [Alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2006-01-20 9:53 ` Martin Langer
2006-01-20 9:53 ` [Alsa-devel] " Martin Langer
2006-01-20 12:41 ` Jamie Heilman
2006-01-20 16:09 ` Bob Tracy
2006-01-20 16:09 ` Bob Tracy
2006-01-19 21:06 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-19 21:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 21:43 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-19 21:06 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-01-20 11:54 ` [Alsa-devel] " Martin Habets
2006-01-20 19:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-20 19:04 ` [Alsa-devel] " Adrian Bunk
2006-01-20 21:29 ` Olaf Hering
2006-01-20 21:29 ` [Alsa-devel] " Olaf Hering
2006-01-20 21:29 ` Olaf Hering
2006-01-20 23:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 23:16 ` [Alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 23:16 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 23:22 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-20 23:22 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-23 12:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-23 12:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-23 13:12 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-23 13:12 ` [Alsa-devel] " Ben Collins
2006-01-23 13:12 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-23 12:20 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-01-20 23:22 ` Ben Collins
2006-01-20 23:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 23:15 ` [Alsa-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 23:15 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-01-20 11:54 ` Martin Habets
2006-01-21 21:05 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-01-21 21:05 ` Ralf Baechle
2006-01-23 14:11 ` Dan Malek
2006-01-23 14:11 ` Dan Malek
2006-01-23 15:06 ` Jordan Crouse
2006-01-23 15:06 ` Jordan Crouse
2006-01-25 2:47 ` Martin Michlmayr
2006-01-25 2:47 ` Martin Michlmayr
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