VMWare standards

VMWare standards

[Jacob Gorm Hansen]

hi,

Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
VMM's, see:

http://www.vmware.com/standards/

Should the Xen community be part of this effort?

Jacob

Re: VMWare standards

[Hans-Joerg Hoexer]

Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.

"Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:24:51AM +0100, Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
> hi,
> 
> Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
> lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
> VMM's, see:
> 
> http://www.vmware.com/standards/
> 
> Should the Xen community be part of this effort?
> 
> Jacob
> 
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Re: VMWare standards

[Jacob Gorm Hansen]

On 1/31/06, Hans-Joerg Hoexer
<Hans-Joerg.Hoexer@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.
>
> "Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
> A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
> may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
> VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."

You seem to be confusing their shared source initiative with the
hypercall standard that they are proposing.

Jacob

Re: VMWare standards

[Hans-Joerg Hoexer]

No, after looking at their community work I wonder wether one
should care about their proposed standard.

HJ.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:18:42PM +0100, Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
> On 1/31/06, Hans-Joerg Hoexer
> <Hans-Joerg.Hoexer@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> > Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.
> >
> > "Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
> > A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
> > may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
> > VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."
> 
> You seem to be confusing their shared source initiative with the
> hypercall standard that they are proposing.
> 
> Jacob
> 
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> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel

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Dept. of Computer Science 3	University of Erlangen-Nuremberg
Martensstr. 3, 91058 Erlangen, Germany

Re: VMWare standards

[Anthony Liguori]

Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:

>hi,
>
>Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
>lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
>VMM's, see:
>
>http://www.vmware.com/standards/
>  
>
VMware first brought this up last year during OLS.  There has been 
patches floating to the osdl-virtualization list.

>Should the Xen community be part of this effort?
>  
>
So far there hasn't been any real public discussion (AFAIK) about VMI.  
There certainly are merits to it but I'm not convinced that those merits 
justify major changes in Xen.  Also, since they already support this in 
their product, I'm not sure how much the spec is up for discussion and 
there definitely are some key aspects that I'd like to see change (for 
instance, reliance on PCI bus emulation for device discovery).

I'd be really interested to here what the Cambridge guys thought about 
it (or anyone else for that matter).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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Re: VMWare standards

[Anthony Liguori]

Anthony Liguori wrote:

> So far there hasn't been any real public discussion (AFAIK) about VMI.

I'm glad I qualified this, check the xen-merge archives :-)

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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>
> Anthony Liguori
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