* VMWare standards
@ 2006-01-31 10:24 Jacob Gorm Hansen
2006-01-31 12:12 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
2006-01-31 16:03 ` Anthony Liguori
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From: Jacob Gorm Hansen @ 2006-01-31 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
hi,
Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
VMM's, see:
http://www.vmware.com/standards/
Should the Xen community be part of this effort?
Jacob
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* Re: VMWare standards
2006-01-31 10:24 VMWare standards Jacob Gorm Hansen
@ 2006-01-31 12:12 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
2006-01-31 12:18 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2006-01-31 16:03 ` Anthony Liguori
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hans-Joerg Hoexer @ 2006-01-31 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jacob Gorm Hansen; +Cc: xen-devel
Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.
"Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:24:51AM +0100, Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
> hi,
>
> Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
> lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
> VMM's, see:
>
> http://www.vmware.com/standards/
>
> Should the Xen community be part of this effort?
>
> Jacob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
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* Re: VMWare standards
2006-01-31 12:12 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
@ 2006-01-31 12:18 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
2006-01-31 12:25 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
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From: Jacob Gorm Hansen @ 2006-01-31 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans-Joerg Hoexer; +Cc: xen-devel
On 1/31/06, Hans-Joerg Hoexer
<Hans-Joerg.Hoexer@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.
>
> "Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
> A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
> may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
> VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."
You seem to be confusing their shared source initiative with the
hypercall standard that they are proposing.
Jacob
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* Re: VMWare standards
2006-01-31 12:18 ` Jacob Gorm Hansen
@ 2006-01-31 12:25 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
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From: Hans-Joerg Hoexer @ 2006-01-31 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jacob Gorm Hansen; +Cc: Hans-Joerg Hoexer, xen-devel
No, after looking at their community work I wonder wether one
should care about their proposed standard.
HJ.
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 01:18:42PM +0100, Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
> On 1/31/06, Hans-Joerg Hoexer
> <Hans-Joerg.Hoexer@informatik.uni-erlangen.de> wrote:
> > Please read the FAQ at http://www.vmware.com/communitysource/faqs.html.
> >
> > "Q: Do the partners have to indemnify the source contributions?
> > A: No. However, partners have to contribute only original works. Also partners
> > may not contribute source code available under open source licenses since
> > VMware may not be able to abide by the viral nature of such licenses."
>
> You seem to be confusing their shared source initiative with the
> hypercall standard that they are proposing.
>
> Jacob
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
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* Re: VMWare standards
2006-01-31 10:24 VMWare standards Jacob Gorm Hansen
2006-01-31 12:12 ` Hans-Joerg Hoexer
@ 2006-01-31 16:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-01-31 17:01 ` Anthony Liguori
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From: Anthony Liguori @ 2006-01-31 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jacob Gorm Hansen; +Cc: xen-devel
Jacob Gorm Hansen wrote:
>hi,
>
>Sorry if this is old news, but it seems some of the larger players,
>lead by VMWare, are trying to define a standard for paravirtualized
>VMM's, see:
>
>http://www.vmware.com/standards/
>
>
VMware first brought this up last year during OLS. There has been
patches floating to the osdl-virtualization list.
>Should the Xen community be part of this effort?
>
>
So far there hasn't been any real public discussion (AFAIK) about VMI.
There certainly are merits to it but I'm not convinced that those merits
justify major changes in Xen. Also, since they already support this in
their product, I'm not sure how much the spec is up for discussion and
there definitely are some key aspects that I'd like to see change (for
instance, reliance on PCI bus emulation for device discovery).
I'd be really interested to here what the Cambridge guys thought about
it (or anyone else for that matter).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>Jacob
>
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>
>
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