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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, herbert@13thfloor.at,
	devel@openvz.org, serue@us.ibm.com, akpm@osdl.org,
	sam@vilain.net, Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@sw.ru>, Stanislav Protassov <st@sw.ru>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Virtualization steps
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:41:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44294B33.3040507@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4428FB2B.8070805@sw.ru>

Kirill Korotaev wrote:

>> Frankly I don't see running 100 VMs as a realistic goal, being able 
>> to run Linux, Windows, Solaris and BEOS unmodified in 4-5 VMs would 
>> be far more useful.
>
> It is more than realistic. Hosting companies run more than 100 VPSs in 
> reality. There are also other usefull scenarios. For example, I know 
> the universities which run VPS for every faculty web site, for every 
> department, mail server and so on. Why do you think they want to run 
> only 5VMs on one machine? Much more! 

I made no commont on what "they" might want, I want to make the rack of 
underutilized Windows, BSD and Solaris servers go away. An approach 
which doesn't support unmodified guest installs doesn't solve any of my 
current problems. I didn't say it was in any way not useful, just not of 
interest to me. What needs I have for Linux environments are answered by 
jails and/or UML.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO TMR Associates, Inc
  Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979


  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-28 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-24 17:19 [RFC] Virtualization steps Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 17:33 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-24 19:25   ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-24 19:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28  4:28     ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28  5:31       ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28  6:45       ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:59         ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-28 22:24           ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 23:28             ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29  9:13               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 11:08                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 13:45                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 14:47                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 17:29                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-29 21:37                     ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-12  8:28                       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13  1:05                         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13  6:52                           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-13 13:42                             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 21:33                               ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-13 22:45                                 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-14  7:41                                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-14  9:56                                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:29                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-13 22:51                                 ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-14 10:08                                   ` Cedric Le Goater
2006-04-15 19:31                                     ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28  8:52       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28  9:00         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 14:26           ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 14:44             ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-29  6:05               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29  6:19                 ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 18:20                   ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 22:36                     ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 22:52                       ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:01                         ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:13                           ` Chris Wright
2006-03-29 23:18                             ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 23:28                               ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30  1:02                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30  1:36                           ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30  1:41                             ` David Lang
2006-03-30  2:04                               ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 14:32                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 15:30                                   ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-30 16:43                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:00                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 13:40                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 16:07                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-30 16:15                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 18:55                                     ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30 18:44                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:07                                     ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31  5:36                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31  5:51                                         ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31  6:52                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 18:53                                   ` Chris Wright
2006-03-30  2:48                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 19:23                               ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31  6:00                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-31 14:52                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-03-31 16:39                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 13:29                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30 13:37                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30 14:55                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-30  2:24                           ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30  3:01                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-30  3:26                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-30 10:30                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-11 10:32                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 11:14                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-04-11 14:44                       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28  9:00       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 14:41         ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2006-03-28 15:03           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:48             ` Jeff Dike
2006-03-28 23:07           ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 20:56             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 20:29     ` [Devel] " Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 20:50       ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-03-28 21:38         ` Jun OKAJIMA
2006-03-28 21:51           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:18             ` Sam Vilain
2006-04-03 16:47         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-11 10:38           ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-11 16:20             ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-04-11 18:12               ` Kir Kolyshkin
2006-04-12  5:12             ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12  6:55               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12  6:53                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12  7:51                   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-04-12 17:03                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-12 17:20                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-04-13 16:54               ` Alexey Kuznetsov
2006-04-30 13:22             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-04-30 21:34               ` Sam Vilain
2006-05-01 12:27               ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-05-03 20:32                 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28  9:02   ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28  9:15     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 15:35       ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:53         ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-28 16:31         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 21:37         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-03-28 16:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 23:04       ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29  1:39       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-29 13:47         ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-28 15:48     ` [Devel] " Matt Ayres
2006-03-28 15:48       ` Matt Ayres
2006-03-28 16:42       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28 17:04         ` Matt Ayres
2006-03-28 17:04           ` Matt Ayres
2006-03-29  0:55       ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-24 18:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-24 21:19 ` Herbert Poetzl
2006-03-27 18:45   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-28  8:51     ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 12:53       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-03-28 22:51       ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-29 20:30       ` Dave Hansen
2006-03-29 20:47         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-29 22:44         ` Sam Vilain
2006-03-30 13:51         ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-03-28 21:58   ` Eric W. Biederman

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