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From: Jerry Van Baren <gerald.vanbaren@smiths-aerospace.com>
To: "linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org list" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Cc: U-Boot Users <u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: FT u-boot shim
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:33:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44511C88.1010107@smiths-aerospace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D358E665-60E4-48C0-82FD-7A1C16DAF00C@kernel.crashing.org>

Kumar Gala wrote:
>> Let's say we have to support such situations, too.
>>
>>> * dts owned by u-boot??
>> I'm not sure about this. I tend to believe the  dts  belongs  to  the
>> kernel.
>>
>>> Some questions/issues:
>>> * ownership of .dts is problematic.  I hate having a file duplicated
>>> by both u-boot and kernel.  However it also seems bad to make the
>>> build of either depend on the user grabbing a dts from some third
>>> party.  Ideas?  A concrete example would be the MPC8349 ADS/SYS/MDS
>>> port.  Boards ship with an "old" u-boot, thus we need a kernel
>>> wrapper with .dts.  However, newer u-boot's can (hopefully will) have
>>> a dts in them
>> Can we provide the dts as a separate blob that gets  built  with  the
>> kernel image? From U-Boot's point of view, this could be a multi-file
>> image  which  combines  the  dts and the kernel into a single file so
>> that users don't have to care much about this.
> 
> The problem is that there are somethings that u-boot knows that needs  
> to go into the blob (memory size, boot args, initrd info,  
> frequencies, etc.)

[snip]

> - kumar

A thought that keeps recurring (but I've suppressed because I don't have 
time to play...) is that it would be Really Cool[tm] to store the u-boot 
env variables in a flat tree and then pass the env/tree to linux.  It 
also sounds like a major change & disruption to u-boot :-(.  I haven't 
looked at what it would do to code size either.

U-boot could then be a better OpenBoot than OpenBoot ;-)

gvb

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From: Jerry Van Baren <gerald.vanbaren@smiths-aerospace.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Re: FT u-boot shim
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:33:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44511C88.1010107@smiths-aerospace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D358E665-60E4-48C0-82FD-7A1C16DAF00C@kernel.crashing.org>

Kumar Gala wrote:
>> Let's say we have to support such situations, too.
>>
>>> * dts owned by u-boot??
>> I'm not sure about this. I tend to believe the  dts  belongs  to  the
>> kernel.
>>
>>> Some questions/issues:
>>> * ownership of .dts is problematic.  I hate having a file duplicated
>>> by both u-boot and kernel.  However it also seems bad to make the
>>> build of either depend on the user grabbing a dts from some third
>>> party.  Ideas?  A concrete example would be the MPC8349 ADS/SYS/MDS
>>> port.  Boards ship with an "old" u-boot, thus we need a kernel
>>> wrapper with .dts.  However, newer u-boot's can (hopefully will) have
>>> a dts in them
>> Can we provide the dts as a separate blob that gets  built  with  the
>> kernel image? From U-Boot's point of view, this could be a multi-file
>> image  which  combines  the  dts and the kernel into a single file so
>> that users don't have to care much about this.
> 
> The problem is that there are somethings that u-boot knows that needs  
> to go into the blob (memory size, boot args, initrd info,  
> frequencies, etc.)

[snip]

> - kumar

A thought that keeps recurring (but I've suppressed because I don't have 
time to play...) is that it would be Really Cool[tm] to store the u-boot 
env variables in a flat tree and then pass the env/tree to linux.  It 
also sounds like a major change & disruption to u-boot :-(.  I haven't 
looked at what it would do to code size either.

U-boot could then be a better OpenBoot than OpenBoot ;-)

gvb

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-27 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-24 17:41 85xx FDT updates? Jon Loeliger
2006-04-24 19:04 ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-04-24 21:43 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-24 22:31   ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25  6:08     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25  7:49       ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 14:05         ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 16:12           ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 16:25             ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 16:31               ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 16:51                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:16               ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:19                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:34                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 16:49         ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25 16:55           ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 17:08             ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 17:39               ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:01                 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 18:14                   ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:24                     ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 18:29                       ` Brent Cook
2006-04-25 18:33                         ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:53                           ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:20                             ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 19:31                               ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:41                                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 20:00                             ` FT u-boot shim Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:30                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:33                                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:39                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:42                                     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 22:28                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 14:37                                         ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-26 19:19                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 19:46                                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-04-27 18:18                                             ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 18:18                                               ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:05                                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:05                                                 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:20                                                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:20                                                   ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:33                                                   ` Jerry Van Baren [this message]
2006-04-27 19:33                                                     ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 19:42                                                     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:42                                                       ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:43                                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:43                                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 20:40                                                       ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 20:40                                                         ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 21:25                                                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 21:25                                                           ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 21:45                                                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:40                                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:40                                                     ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:46                                                     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:46                                                       ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:59                                                     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:59                                                       ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 21:36                                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 21:36                                                         ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 21:55                                                     ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-27 21:55                                                       ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-27 22:12                                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 22:28                                                         ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 22:55                                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28  7:34                                                             ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-28  7:43                                                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28  8:03                                                                 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-28  9:37                                                                   ` ???
2006-04-28  9:51                                                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 16:10                                                                     ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-28 16:36                                                         ` [U-Boot-Users] Re: FT u-boot shim - using ramdisk? Roger Larsson
2006-04-28 19:30                                                           ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 19:34                                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:33                               ` FT u-boot shim Mark A. Greer
2006-04-25 21:38                               ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-28 11:28                               ` Paul Mackerras
2006-04-28 16:01                                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 19:11                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 19:44                                     ` Tom Rini
2006-04-28 23:07                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 23:22                                         ` Tom Rini
2006-04-29  0:32                                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-29  0:52                                             ` Tom Rini
2006-04-29  8:37                                               ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-29 15:33                                                 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 23:35                                     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-04-28 23:55                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 19:52                                   ` Tom Rini
2006-04-25 18:48                         ` 85xx FDT updates? Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:14                           ` Andy Fleming
2006-04-25 19:22                             ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 19:27                             ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:58                               ` Andy Fleming
2006-04-25 20:04                                 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 21:29                                 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:25                           ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 18:31                       ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:24                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:32                           ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:38                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:22                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:29                       ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:36                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:38                           ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 22:22                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 23:27                           ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25 21:09       ` Wolfgang Denk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-27 19:30 FT u-boot shim Rune Torgersen
2006-04-27 19:40 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:45   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:54     ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 21:34       ` Wolfgang Denk

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