From: Jerry Van Baren <gerald.vanbaren@smiths-aerospace.com>
To: "linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org list" <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Cc: U-Boot Users <u-boot-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: FT u-boot shim
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:33:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44511C88.1010107@smiths-aerospace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D358E665-60E4-48C0-82FD-7A1C16DAF00C@kernel.crashing.org>
Kumar Gala wrote:
>> Let's say we have to support such situations, too.
>>
>>> * dts owned by u-boot??
>> I'm not sure about this. I tend to believe the dts belongs to the
>> kernel.
>>
>>> Some questions/issues:
>>> * ownership of .dts is problematic. I hate having a file duplicated
>>> by both u-boot and kernel. However it also seems bad to make the
>>> build of either depend on the user grabbing a dts from some third
>>> party. Ideas? A concrete example would be the MPC8349 ADS/SYS/MDS
>>> port. Boards ship with an "old" u-boot, thus we need a kernel
>>> wrapper with .dts. However, newer u-boot's can (hopefully will) have
>>> a dts in them
>> Can we provide the dts as a separate blob that gets built with the
>> kernel image? From U-Boot's point of view, this could be a multi-file
>> image which combines the dts and the kernel into a single file so
>> that users don't have to care much about this.
>
> The problem is that there are somethings that u-boot knows that needs
> to go into the blob (memory size, boot args, initrd info,
> frequencies, etc.)
[snip]
> - kumar
A thought that keeps recurring (but I've suppressed because I don't have
time to play...) is that it would be Really Cool[tm] to store the u-boot
env variables in a flat tree and then pass the env/tree to linux. It
also sounds like a major change & disruption to u-boot :-(. I haven't
looked at what it would do to code size either.
U-boot could then be a better OpenBoot than OpenBoot ;-)
gvb
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jerry Van Baren <gerald.vanbaren@smiths-aerospace.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot-Users] Re: FT u-boot shim
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:33:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44511C88.1010107@smiths-aerospace.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D358E665-60E4-48C0-82FD-7A1C16DAF00C@kernel.crashing.org>
Kumar Gala wrote:
>> Let's say we have to support such situations, too.
>>
>>> * dts owned by u-boot??
>> I'm not sure about this. I tend to believe the dts belongs to the
>> kernel.
>>
>>> Some questions/issues:
>>> * ownership of .dts is problematic. I hate having a file duplicated
>>> by both u-boot and kernel. However it also seems bad to make the
>>> build of either depend on the user grabbing a dts from some third
>>> party. Ideas? A concrete example would be the MPC8349 ADS/SYS/MDS
>>> port. Boards ship with an "old" u-boot, thus we need a kernel
>>> wrapper with .dts. However, newer u-boot's can (hopefully will) have
>>> a dts in them
>> Can we provide the dts as a separate blob that gets built with the
>> kernel image? From U-Boot's point of view, this could be a multi-file
>> image which combines the dts and the kernel into a single file so
>> that users don't have to care much about this.
>
> The problem is that there are somethings that u-boot knows that needs
> to go into the blob (memory size, boot args, initrd info,
> frequencies, etc.)
[snip]
> - kumar
A thought that keeps recurring (but I've suppressed because I don't have
time to play...) is that it would be Really Cool[tm] to store the u-boot
env variables in a flat tree and then pass the env/tree to linux. It
also sounds like a major change & disruption to u-boot :-(. I haven't
looked at what it would do to code size either.
U-boot could then be a better OpenBoot than OpenBoot ;-)
gvb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-04-27 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-04-24 17:41 85xx FDT updates? Jon Loeliger
2006-04-24 19:04 ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-04-24 21:43 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-24 22:31 ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25 6:08 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 7:49 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 14:05 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 16:12 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 16:25 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 16:31 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 16:51 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:16 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:19 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 16:49 ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25 16:55 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 17:08 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 17:39 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:01 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 18:14 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:24 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 18:29 ` Brent Cook
2006-04-25 18:33 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 18:53 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:20 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 19:31 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:41 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 20:00 ` FT u-boot shim Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:30 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:33 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:39 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:42 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 22:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 14:37 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-26 19:19 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 19:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-04-27 18:18 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 18:18 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:05 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:20 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:20 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:33 ` Jerry Van Baren [this message]
2006-04-27 19:33 ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 19:42 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:42 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 20:40 ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 20:40 ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-04-27 21:25 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 21:25 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 21:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:40 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:40 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:46 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:46 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:59 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:59 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 21:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 21:36 ` [U-Boot-Users] " Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 21:55 ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-27 21:55 ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-27 22:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 22:28 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-27 22:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 7:34 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-28 7:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 8:03 ` Pantelis Antoniou
2006-04-28 9:37 ` ???
2006-04-28 9:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 16:10 ` Tolunay Orkun
2006-04-28 16:36 ` [U-Boot-Users] Re: FT u-boot shim - using ramdisk? Roger Larsson
2006-04-28 19:30 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 19:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:33 ` FT u-boot shim Mark A. Greer
2006-04-25 21:38 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-28 11:28 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-04-28 16:01 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 19:11 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 19:44 ` Tom Rini
2006-04-28 23:07 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 23:22 ` Tom Rini
2006-04-29 0:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-29 0:52 ` Tom Rini
2006-04-29 8:37 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-29 15:33 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-28 23:35 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-04-28 23:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-28 19:52 ` Tom Rini
2006-04-25 18:48 ` 85xx FDT updates? Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:14 ` Andy Fleming
2006-04-25 19:22 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 19:27 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 19:58 ` Andy Fleming
2006-04-25 20:04 ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-04-25 21:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:25 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 18:31 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:32 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:38 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:29 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 21:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-25 21:38 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-25 22:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-26 23:27 ` Dan Malek
2006-04-25 21:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-04-27 19:30 FT u-boot shim Rune Torgersen
2006-04-27 19:40 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 19:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-04-27 19:54 ` Kumar Gala
2006-04-27 21:34 ` Wolfgang Denk
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