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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	cmm@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Forking ext4 filesystem from ext3 filesystem
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:00:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44DB9E6C.9070808@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810132720.4d9fced4.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:13:33 -0400
> Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
> 
>> The sooner we kill buffer heads and use submit_bio(), the better :)
> 
> A buffer_head is a caching entity and a bio is an IO container.  They're
> quite separate concepts.

Yeah, sorry, I meant direct pagecache I/O.  I forgot that bio doesn't 
handle caching.


> A buffer_head is the kernel's sole abstraction of a disk block. 
> Filesystems use disk blocks a lot, and they need such an abstraction.

IMO Al Viro work has shown that you can do pagecache I/O without needing 
such a heavyweight system.

	Jeff




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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cmm@us.ibm.com,
	ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] Forking ext4 filesystem from ext3 filesystem
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:00:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44DB9E6C.9070808@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060810132720.4d9fced4.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:13:33 -0400
> Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org> wrote:
> 
>> The sooner we kill buffer heads and use submit_bio(), the better :)
> 
> A buffer_head is a caching entity and a bio is an IO container.  They're
> quite separate concepts.

Yeah, sorry, I meant direct pagecache I/O.  I forgot that bio doesn't 
handle caching.


> A buffer_head is the kernel's sole abstraction of a disk block. 
> Filesystems use disk blocks a lot, and they need such an abstraction.

IMO Al Viro work has shown that you can do pagecache I/O without needing 
such a heavyweight system.

	Jeff




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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-10 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-10  1:17 [PATCH 1/5] Forking ext4 filesystem from ext3 filesystem Mingming Cao
2006-08-10  6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10  6:39   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 16:41   ` Mingming Cao
2006-08-10 16:41     ` Mingming Cao
2006-08-10 16:48     ` Jörn Engel
2006-08-10 16:48       ` Jörn Engel
2006-08-10 18:18     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 18:18       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 20:22       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:22         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:33         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 20:33           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 20:52           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 17:44   ` [Ext2-devel] " Theodore Tso
2006-08-10 17:44     ` Theodore Tso
2006-08-10 18:51   ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-08-10 19:23     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 19:23       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 19:36       ` [Ext2-devel] " Dave Kleikamp
2006-08-10 19:36         ` Dave Kleikamp
2006-08-10 19:54         ` [Ext2-devel] " Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 19:54           ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 20:12       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:12         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:13     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:13       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 20:27       ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 20:27         ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-10 21:00         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-08-10 21:00           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-10 21:11           ` [Ext2-devel] " Alex Tomas
2006-08-10 21:11             ` Alex Tomas
2006-08-10 22:18             ` [Ext2-devel] " Andrew Morton

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