From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: Venkat Yekkirala <vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com>
Cc: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>,
Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>,
latten@austin.ibm.com, jmorris@redhat.com, dwalsh@redhat.com,
Darrel Goeddel <DGoeddel@TrustedCS.com>,
Chad Hanson <chanson@TrustedCS.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Labeled networking packets
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:07:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45140A35.7000308@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36282A1733C57546BE392885C0618592015734F8@chaos.tcs.tcs-sec.com>
Venkat Yekkirala wrote:
>>>You can always have getpeercon return a "domain" by turning out a
>>>domain (a unlabeled_t one?) in the non labeled-ipsec case.
>>
>>The only thing I don't like about this is that it starts giving
>>types/domains implicit meaning that is not defined by policy.
>
> I don't know what you are talking about here. I was saying you
> could turn out a "true domain" using transitions.
Well, as I understand it right now types/domains have no inherent
meaning; they are given defined through their use in the policy. Having
the kernel return "unlabeled_t" to signify a special case starts giving
"unlabeled_t" inherent meaning. Maybe it's not a big deal as I guess
"unlabeled_t" will always have a certain conotation about it but I still
think sending an error is much cleaner.
Applications that depend on getpeercon() could check for the error and
substitute "unlabeled_t".
>> I know we
>>sort of do that already with some of the MLS attributes
>
> Examples?
Look at all of the "mls*" attributes defined in mls.te and how they are
used in the MLS constraints file.
>>Plus, what if the remote domain was honestly running in "unlabeled_t"?
>>Stupid, yes, but possibile I imagine.
>
> unlabeled_t anywhere is unlabeled. It doesn't matter how it came to be
> unlabeled_t.
No, not always, see the comments above.
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-22 15:45 Labeled networking packets Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:07 ` Paul Moore [this message]
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2006-09-27 19:35 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-27 19:15 Joy Latten
2006-09-27 16:46 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-27 16:14 Joy Latten
2006-09-26 22:04 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 22:43 ` James Morris
2006-09-27 11:37 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 12:40 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-27 12:58 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 13:15 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-27 12:59 ` James Morris
2006-09-27 13:29 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 17:03 ` James Morris
2006-09-27 17:08 ` James Morris
2006-09-26 15:58 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 15:51 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 16:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-26 20:01 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 21:53 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-25 22:00 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 21:46 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 13:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 20:02 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 20:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:56 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 19:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 15:28 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 16:41 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:45 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 15:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-22 23:39 Joy Latten
2006-09-22 23:25 Joy Latten
2006-09-22 21:55 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-23 14:13 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 15:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 15:55 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 16:43 ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-09-25 17:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:14 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 19:58 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 16:35 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:04 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:25 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 18:41 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:53 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 19:00 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 19:25 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 19:38 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 19:56 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:49 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 19:21 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:59 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 17:58 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:38 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:54 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 20:04 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 20:54 ` James Morris
2006-09-22 21:42 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 20:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 17:23 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 17:47 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 20:44 ` James Morris
2006-09-22 21:07 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 18:52 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 20:45 ` James Morris
2006-09-22 20:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:30 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-22 16:14 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:05 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:21 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:56 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:20 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:41 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:55 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:36 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:50 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:21 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:38 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:30 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:09 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 14:57 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 0:44 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 2:04 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 12:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 13:02 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 14:47 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 14:58 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:25 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 19:48 ` James Morris
2006-09-22 19:49 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 19:02 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 13:26 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-22 13:50 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:01 ` James Morris
2006-09-22 19:17 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 19:07 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-21 17:14 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 19:37 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-21 16:27 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 16:47 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-21 15:01 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 15:55 ` Stephen Smalley
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