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From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: Venkat Yekkirala <vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com>
Cc: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@epoch.ncsc.mil>,
	Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>,
	latten@austin.ibm.com, jmorris@redhat.com, dwalsh@redhat.com,
	Darrel Goeddel <DGoeddel@TrustedCS.com>,
	Chad Hanson <chanson@TrustedCS.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: Labeled networking packets
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 12:21:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45140D78.2070500@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36282A1733C57546BE392885C061859201573506@chaos.tcs.tcs-sec.com>

Venkat Yekkirala wrote:
>>Venkat Yekkirala wrote:
>>>>>Do you have a scenario where one might want both labeling 
>>>>
>>>>schemes at the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>same time? Note that if you need netlabel (legacy os on the 
>>>>
>>>>other side)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and you also want ipsec for integrity then the isakmp 
>>>>
>>>>negotiation would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>not include a context and netlabel would be used.
>>>>
>>>>Honestly, I can't think of why you would want to use both SA and
>>>>NetLabel labeling on the same connection - that's just stupid :)
>>>
>>>I can think of ALL Secret and its compartments using one SA
>>>for example (a very realistic one).
>>
>>If you have NetLabel carrying the MLS label why would you want to make
>>your life complicated by using SA labeling as well?
>  
> It's not a matter of complicated or not. Unless you make sure both
> are NOT used at the same time, you *must* make you they work like
> they are supposed to (cipso falling in the rage of the SA) if/when
> they are used together.

See my comments in my other mail about treating the socket as the
communication endpoint, not the SA.

-- 
paul moore
linux security @ hp

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-22 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-22 16:05 Labeled networking packets Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:21 ` Paul Moore [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-27 19:35 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-27 19:15 Joy Latten
2006-09-27 16:46 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-27 16:14 Joy Latten
2006-09-26 22:04 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 22:43 ` James Morris
2006-09-27 11:37   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 12:40     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-27 12:58       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 13:15         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-27 12:59     ` James Morris
2006-09-27 13:29       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-27 17:03         ` James Morris
2006-09-27 17:08         ` James Morris
2006-09-26 15:58 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 15:51 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 16:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-26 20:01 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 21:53 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-25 22:00 ` James Morris
2006-09-25 21:46 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-26 13:35 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 20:02 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 20:47 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:56 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 19:24 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 15:28 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 16:41 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:00 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:45 Chad Hanson
2006-09-25 15:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2006-09-22 23:39 Joy Latten
2006-09-22 23:25 Joy Latten
2006-09-22 21:55 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-23 14:13 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 15:35   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 15:55     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 16:43       ` Darrel Goeddel
2006-09-25 17:02       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:14         ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 19:58           ` James Morris
2006-09-25 16:35     ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:04       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:25         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 18:41           ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:53             ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-25 19:00             ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 19:25               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 19:38                 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 19:56                   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:49           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 19:21             ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:59 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 17:58   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 18:38     ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-25 18:54       ` Paul Moore
2006-09-25 20:04     ` James Morris
2006-09-25 20:54       ` James Morris
2006-09-22 21:42 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 20:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 17:23 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 17:47 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 20:44   ` James Morris
2006-09-22 21:07     ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 18:52 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 20:45   ` James Morris
2006-09-22 20:57 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-25 14:30   ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-22 16:14 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:56 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:20 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:45 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 16:07 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:41 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:55 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:36 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:50 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:21 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:38 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 15:30 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 15:09 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22 14:57 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22  0:44 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-22  2:04 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 12:47   ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 13:02     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 14:47       ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 14:58         ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:25           ` Paul Moore
2006-09-22 19:48             ` James Morris
2006-09-22 19:49           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 19:02       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 13:26     ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-22 13:50       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-22 15:01         ` James Morris
2006-09-22 19:17         ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-22 19:07       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-21 17:14 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 19:37 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-21 16:27 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 16:47 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-09-21 15:01 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-21 15:55 ` Stephen Smalley

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