From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: Venkat Yekkirala <vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] secid reconciliation-v03: Enforcement for SELinux
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:50:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <451D5CE4.30700@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609291329030.7218@d.namei>
James Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, James Morris wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>It seems more of a pain to actually
>>>>prevent their use at the same time and/or explain strange/unnatural
>>>>behavior.
>>>
>>>Agreed, the solution that we agreed upon is much easier to implement and
>>>explain than a lot of the alternatives.
>>
>>Ok, can you please explain it further?
>>
>>i.e. show me what the policy looks like, exactly what the user is trying
>>to achieve, and explain what happens to each packet exactly in terms of
>>labeling on the input and output paths.
>
> Also, why can't this be done just with xfrm labeling?
I believe the issue Venkat and I were discussing was how to handle the
case of multiple external labeling protocols, i.e. what to do if we get
a packet through labeled SA which has a CIPSO option. As I've said
before, I don't believe this is something we will see much in practice
but I think we need to decide what to do: handle it somehow or just punt
on the problem and drop it. Several people with experience with
external labeling have commented on how supporting both external
labeling protocols would be a good idea so Venkat and I are trying to
come up with a solution that works.
Please see my reponse with the pseudo code/policy examples as this might
help clear things up.
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
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From: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: Venkat Yekkirala <vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
Joshua Brindle <method@gentoo.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] secid reconciliation-v03: Enforcement for SELinux
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:50:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <451D5CE4.30700@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609291329030.7218@d.namei>
James Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, James Morris wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, 29 Sep 2006, Paul Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>It seems more of a pain to actually
>>>>prevent their use at the same time and/or explain strange/unnatural
>>>>behavior.
>>>
>>>Agreed, the solution that we agreed upon is much easier to implement and
>>>explain than a lot of the alternatives.
>>
>>Ok, can you please explain it further?
>>
>>i.e. show me what the policy looks like, exactly what the user is trying
>>to achieve, and explain what happens to each packet exactly in terms of
>>labeling on the input and output paths.
>
> Also, why can't this be done just with xfrm labeling?
I believe the issue Venkat and I were discussing was how to handle the
case of multiple external labeling protocols, i.e. what to do if we get
a packet through labeled SA which has a CIPSO option. As I've said
before, I don't believe this is something we will see much in practice
but I think we need to decide what to do: handle it somehow or just punt
on the problem and drop it. Several people with experience with
external labeling have commented on how supporting both external
labeling protocols would be a good idea so Venkat and I are trying to
come up with a solution that works.
Please see my reponse with the pseudo code/policy examples as this might
help clear things up.
--
paul moore
linux security @ hp
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-29 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-29 16:27 [PATCH 7/7] secid reconciliation-v03: Enforcement for SELinux Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:27 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:31 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:31 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:50 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 16:50 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 17:32 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 17:32 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 17:50 ` Paul Moore [this message]
2006-09-29 17:50 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 17:43 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 17:43 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 18:41 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 18:41 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 19:06 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 19:06 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 19:33 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 19:33 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 19:51 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 19:51 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 20:04 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 20:04 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 20:09 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 20:09 ` Paul Moore
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-01 21:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-10-01 21:30 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 22:10 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 22:10 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 21:54 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 21:54 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 18:50 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 18:50 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 19:13 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 19:13 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 17:27 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 17:27 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 17:38 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 17:38 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:22 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:22 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:17 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:17 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:09 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:09 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 16:13 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:13 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 2:33 Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 2:33 ` Venkat Yekkirala
2006-09-29 3:52 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-29 3:52 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-29 12:59 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 12:59 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 14:00 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-29 14:00 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-09-29 14:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 14:28 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 14:33 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 14:33 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 14:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 14:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2006-09-29 16:06 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:06 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:10 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 16:10 ` James Morris
2006-09-29 16:15 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:15 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:39 ` Paul Moore
2006-09-29 16:39 ` Paul Moore
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