From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Checking page_count(page) in invalidate_complete_page
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:34:57 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <451D8371.2070101@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <451C6AAC.1080203@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> Chuck Lever wrote:
>
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>
>>> lru_add_drain_all() is a nasty, hacky, not-exported-to-modules
>>> thing. It
>>> equates to lru_add_drain() if !CONFIG_NUMA.
>>
>
> It should drain on all CPUs though, I can't remember why it doesn't.
> Not that I disagree that throwing IPIs around is a hack ;)
>
>>> Sigh, we're not getting there, are we?
>>>
>>> I'm still thinking we add invalidate_complete_page2() to get us out of
>>> trouble and park the problem :(. That'd be a good approach for
>>> 2.6.18.x,
>>> which I assume is fairly urgent.
>>
>>
>> Choosing which fix to include is above my pay grade. Both of these
>> proposals address the NFS readdir cache invalidation problem.
>>
>> But it seems like there is a real problem here -- the pages that are
>> waiting to be added the LRU will always have a page count that is too
>> high for invalidate_inode_pages to work on them.
One option that hasn't been entertained is to remove the "batched LRU
add" logic all together. Just gut lru_cache_add -- it should send
pages immediately to be added to the LRU list. This is a bit slower,
but it fixes the invalidation problems, and makes the icky
lru_add_drain_all() a no-op.
Note that lru_add_drain_all() would have to be called much more often if
it is called from the inode invalidation logic... So, which is more
overhead, adding a page to the LRU at a time, or draining the per-CPU
LRU pagevecs all the time?
> If you do the lru_add_drain_all, then the vmscan problem should be probably
> mostly fixable by detecting failure, waiting, and retrying a few times.
Why shouldn't invalidate_complete_pages() do that?
> After that, making an invalidate_complete_page2 ignore the page count or
> dirty status would only save you from a very small number of cases, and
> they
> would be likely to be a data loss / corruption case.
>
> OTOH, we haven't had many complaints before, so for 2.6.18, an
> invalidate_complete_page2 may indeed be the best option?
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2006-09-25 21:10 ` Checking page_count(page) in invalidate_complete_page Andrew Morton
2006-09-25 22:30 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-25 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-25 22:57 ` Steve Dickson
2006-09-25 23:14 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-25 22:40 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-25 23:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-25 22:50 ` Steve Dickson
2006-09-25 22:51 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-25 23:14 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-25 23:21 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-26 0:01 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-26 0:13 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-26 1:33 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-26 1:48 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-28 16:26 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-28 16:36 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-28 16:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-28 16:42 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-28 17:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-28 17:09 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-29 0:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-29 20:34 ` Chuck Lever [this message]
2006-09-29 20:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-29 21:02 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-29 21:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-09-29 21:44 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 21:48 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-29 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-29 23:05 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-01 4:21 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-02 12:01 ` Steve Dickson
2006-10-02 13:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-10-02 16:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 17:02 ` Steve Dickson
2006-10-02 18:20 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-02 19:02 ` Steve Dickson
2006-10-03 2:14 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-03 4:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-10-03 4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03 18:50 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-03 19:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-10-03 19:21 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-03 21:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 19:29 ` Chuck Lever
2006-10-04 19:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 19:53 ` Steve Dickson
2006-09-28 16:41 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-26 6:25 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-26 13:12 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-27 4:47 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-27 8:25 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-27 8:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-27 16:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-27 15:54 ` Chuck Lever
2006-09-25 22:56 ` Chuck Lever
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