From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@aknet.ru>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps
Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:19:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4522B7CD.4040206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4522A691.7070700@aknet.ru>
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Stas Sergeev wrote:
> My position is simple: the ld.so problem needs a better
> solution than the current one. The current one, for example,
> still allows to use ld.so directly to execute the files for
> which you do not have an exec permission. And that's not an
> only problem...
You really don't get it, do you. The way ld.so works can be implemented
in many other forms with other programs. With some time and energy you
likely can write a perl or python script to do it. "ld.so" is a place
holder for everything userlevel that wants to map executables.
> And allow an attacker to store his files on that partition,
> and then execute them.
They can do it anyway.
> I have already proposed another solution for ld.so problem
> 3 times.
And for obvious reasons I ignored it.
noexec mounts the way _you_ want them are completely, utterly useless.
nonexec mounts as they are today plus an upcoming mprotect patch give
fine grained control. You have to use additional mechanism like SELinux
to fill in all the holes but that's OK. nonexec mounts give a great
deal more of flexibility.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-03 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-23 10:30 [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 15:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-23 15:47 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 1:12 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-09-25 4:35 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 15:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 16:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-23 16:38 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-23 18:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 6:55 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 9:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-24 10:00 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 13:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-24 14:54 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 15:48 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 16:31 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 16:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-09-24 17:04 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 18:09 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:14 ` David Wagner
2006-09-24 19:37 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-09-24 22:49 ` David Wagner
2006-09-25 10:53 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-25 21:36 ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 11:51 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-24 20:06 ` Denis Vlasenko
2006-09-24 20:22 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 23:04 ` David Wagner
2006-09-26 19:46 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 22:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-27 23:10 ` David Wagner
2006-09-27 23:38 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-09-29 1:14 ` David Wagner
2006-09-28 4:52 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-30 9:42 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 15:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 17:15 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 17:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:06 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:19 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2006-10-03 19:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-04 19:36 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 21:31 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:11 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:51 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-04 4:21 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 6:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-04 17:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-03 18:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 18:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 18:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-03 19:07 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-03 21:00 ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-10-04 19:06 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 18:09 ` [patch] honour MNT_NOEXEC for access() Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 21:34 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-06 21:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 11:19 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 15:00 ` David Wagner
2006-10-07 16:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-10-07 19:14 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 19:36 ` David Wagner
2006-10-08 8:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 9:11 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-08 13:46 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-09 2:09 ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-10-09 4:40 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-07 13:18 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 0:30 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 9:10 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 9:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-08 10:36 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-08 10:39 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-08 13:22 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-10-06 22:26 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:30 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-10-04 3:20 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 3:17 ` David Wagner
2006-10-04 13:41 ` Jeff Dike
2006-10-04 18:02 ` Jesper Juhl
2006-10-04 19:48 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 19:16 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC MAP_PRIVATE mmaps Stas Sergeev
2006-09-27 20:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-28 4:33 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-28 16:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-09-29 1:41 ` David Wagner
2006-09-29 20:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-29 16:54 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 19:59 ` [patch] remove MNT_NOEXEC check for PROT_EXEC mmaps Alan Cox
2006-09-24 20:07 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-24 0:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-25 17:17 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 17:43 ` Stas Sergeev
2006-09-25 20:12 ` David Wagner
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