From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:04:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4537CC24.2070708@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4537C807.4@us.ibm.com>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Sorry if I missed this, but can you provide a link to the QEMU changes?
>
I'll do that once I get my sourceforge page and post it here. Watch
this space.
> It's hard to tell what's going on without seeing the userspace
> portions of this.
>
> My initial impression is that you've taken the Xen approach of trying
> to use QEMU only for IO emulation. If this is the case, it won't work
> long term. While you can use vm86 mode for 16 bit virtualization for
> most cases, it cannot handle big real mode. You need the ability to
> transfer down to QEMU and allow it to do emulation.
>
We started using VT only for 64 bit, then added 32 bit, then 16-bit
protected, then vm86 and real mode. We'd transfer the x86 state on each
mode change, but it was (a) fragile (b) considered unclean.
You're right that "big real" mode is not supported, but so far that
hasn't been a problem. Do you know of an OS that needs big real mode?
> Ideally, instead of having as large of an x86 emulator in kernel
> space, you would just drop down to QEMU to do emulation as needed
> (doing only a single basic block and returning). This would let you
> have a much reduced partial emulator in kernel space that only did the
> most common (and performance critical) instructions.
>
Over time that emulator would grow as OSes and compilers evolve... and
we'd really like to keep basic things like the apic in the kernel (as
does Xen).
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-19 19:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-19 13:45 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 14:30 ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 14:43 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 23:26 ` Greg KH
2006-10-19 14:50 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 14:51 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 15:25 ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 18:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:10 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20 7:36 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 8:10 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:36 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 18:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:04 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-10-19 19:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:26 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 22:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20 7:42 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 20:10 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 20:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20 7:16 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 15:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22 8:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Intel virtual mode extensions definitions Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:19 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-19 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20 7:17 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22 8:17 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: kvm data structures Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: mmu virtualization Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20 7:24 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: x86 emulator Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: plumbing Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 16:09 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20 7:37 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 17:31 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-19 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:12 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-19 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:30 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-21 16:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 8:37 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 16:18 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 16:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:01 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:41 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-22 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:41 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:55 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 22:26 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 22:29 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-22 20:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 20:45 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23 0:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-25 16:42 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-22 19:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 22:28 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 0:27 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23 0:39 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 0:51 ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-22 17:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 17:53 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 19:56 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23 7:42 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-24 21:38 ` kvm_create() (was Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine) Andy Isaacson
2006-10-19 18:55 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Anthony Liguori
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