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From: Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>
To: Joshua Brindle <jbrindle@tresys.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
	"Christopher J. PeBenito" <cpebenito@tresys.com>,
	SE Linux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: More  small fixes to policycoreutils
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 09:35:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45630EC1.4090407@mentalrootkit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45627872.2050705@tresys.com>

Joshua Brindle wrote:
> Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 15:14 -0500, Karl MacMillan wrote:
>>> Joshua Brindle wrote:
>>>> Its interesting that semanage manages something that is redhat 
>>>> specific and not part of the upstream utilities at all.. IMO this 
>>>> should never have been merged in the first place, semanage manages 
>>>> libsemanage abstractions, if translations were a part of libsemanage 
>>>> it'd be a different story.
>>>>
>>> Why isn't setrans upstream?
>>
>> It wasn't clear that there was any demand for it outside of Fedora /
>> RHEL, and it was always optional.  If other distros are going to use it
>> (e.g. Debian?), then I agree it should likely be added (after code
>> review and cleanup, of course).
>>
> 
> Also, is this server only for mcs? Does MLS/LSPP config use a different 
> server? 

No - this will work for MLS, though real MLS deployments may replace it 
with a more complex translation server.

It seems like this needs to be more general that mcs, since that
> doesn't really mean anything anyway.
> 

No idea what you mean here, but it seems worth having a component 
upstream even if it is only optionally used. Any distro that wants to 
use MLS/MCS will likely want a translation server.

>>>>> @@ -204,7 +206,8 @@
>>>>>          os.write(fd, self.out())
>>>>>          os.close(fd)
>>>>>          os.rename(newfilename, self.filename)
>>>>> -
>>>>> +                os.system("/sbin/service mcstrans reload > 
>>>>> /dev/null")
>>>>> +                
>>>> This is very distro specific and totally inappropriate IMO.
>>>>
>>> Agreed - what is the solution, though?
>>
>> Configurable pre and post scriptlets, defined externally and optional?
>>
> 
> Same question as above, does semanage management of translations break 
> down on MLS configs?

I don't think so.

  If so I'd vote for all this code to be ripped out
> of semanage altogether and put into another tool that is specific to the 
>  mcstrans server, since the translation file is server specific anyway.
> 

We are having a lot of success by pointing people towards semanage when 
they need to configure SELinux. Adding separate tools at this point 
seems counterproductive to me.

Karl


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  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-21 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14 15:06 Multiple small fixes to policycoreutils Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-14 16:13 ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-11-14 16:18   ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-14 19:19     ` Christopher J. PeBenito
2006-11-14 20:09       ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-15 18:34         ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-15 19:38           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-15 20:16             ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-15 20:18               ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-15 22:01               ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-16  0:05                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-16 22:15                   ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-17  0:50                     ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-17 12:02                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-20 17:10                       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-20 17:36                         ` More " Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-20 18:28                           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-20 20:14                             ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-20 20:25                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-21  3:54                                 ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-21 14:35                                   ` Karl MacMillan [this message]
2006-11-21 14:37                                 ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-20 21:58                             ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-21 13:53                               ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-22 19:16                                 ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 19:22                                   ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 20:05                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:31                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 21:21                                         ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-28 19:37                                           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-29 21:18                                           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 20:06                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:34                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 21:10                                         ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:07                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:35                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 20:08                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:36                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 20:10                                     ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-22 20:36                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-22 21:07                                         ` Daniel J Walsh
2006-11-27 13:39                                           ` Joshua Brindle
2006-11-21 21:13                           ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-15 16:13 ` Multiple " Joshua Brindle

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