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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	greg@kroah.com, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to indicate an unassigned PCI resource ?
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:34:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457431FE.6040702@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061204142201.68d9621f@localhost.localdomain>

Hello.

Alan wrote:

>>>Both PCI core and IDE interpret a zero length resource as unassigned.

>>   This is not about 0-length resource, this is about 0-address. Look at 
>>ide_hwif_confiure() in drivers/ide/setup-pci.c...

> The discussion I was having was about sl82cxx and handling unassigned
> resources. The zero address isn't relevant to that.

    You were following up to the particular error message emitted by the IDE 
core (which you've now deleted), so I corrected you on its reason, that's all.

>>    You should know that the IRQ assumption is *not* true even for x86 since 
>>IRQ0 is and has always been a perfectly valid IRQ (used by PIT).

> Please see previous million recyclings of that discussion and Linus
> answer.

    When Linus remaps IRQ0 on x86, I'll follow that code as a testament. Until 
this happens, I consider is just an opinion. Forcing every arch but x86 to 
remap IRQ0 is an example of the double standards.

>>>Stick a real IDE resource at zero

>> > and drivers/ide can't cope.

>>    Yeah, I've noticed. Unfortunately, a lot of PPC platforms (at least) are 
>>doing exactly this...

> The checks need pushing upwards and removing from their current place -
> the pci layer should check the resource length, the isa pnp should I
> believe check for zero address etc.

    So, it's OK to remove the base *address* check in ide_hwif_confiure() 
altogether?

> libata makes a similar assumption in ata_resources_present() as someone
> (GregKH ???) needs to define what the proper way to encode "resource not
> allocated" into the PCI resources should be.

> If someone on the PCI list (cc'd) or Greg can give a definitive answer then we can go fix the
> offenders now.

    Well, I thought that was IORESOURCE_UNSET...

> Alan

WBR, Sergei

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, greg@kroah.com,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: What is the correct way to indicate an unassigned PCI resource ?
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 17:34:38 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <457431FE.6040702@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061204142201.68d9621f@localhost.localdomain>

Hello.

Alan wrote:

>>>Both PCI core and IDE interpret a zero length resource as unassigned.

>>   This is not about 0-length resource, this is about 0-address. Look at 
>>ide_hwif_confiure() in drivers/ide/setup-pci.c...

> The discussion I was having was about sl82cxx and handling unassigned
> resources. The zero address isn't relevant to that.

    You were following up to the particular error message emitted by the IDE 
core (which you've now deleted), so I corrected you on its reason, that's all.

>>    You should know that the IRQ assumption is *not* true even for x86 since 
>>IRQ0 is and has always been a perfectly valid IRQ (used by PIT).

> Please see previous million recyclings of that discussion and Linus
> answer.

    When Linus remaps IRQ0 on x86, I'll follow that code as a testament. Until 
this happens, I consider is just an opinion. Forcing every arch but x86 to 
remap IRQ0 is an example of the double standards.

>>>Stick a real IDE resource at zero

>> > and drivers/ide can't cope.

>>    Yeah, I've noticed. Unfortunately, a lot of PPC platforms (at least) are 
>>doing exactly this...

> The checks need pushing upwards and removing from their current place -
> the pci layer should check the resource length, the isa pnp should I
> believe check for zero address etc.

    So, it's OK to remove the base *address* check in ide_hwif_confiure() 
altogether?

> libata makes a similar assumption in ata_resources_present() as someone
> (GregKH ???) needs to define what the proper way to encode "resource not
> allocated" into the PCI resources should be.

> If someone on the PCI list (cc'd) or Greg can give a definitive answer then we can go fix the
> offenders now.

    Well, I thought that was IORESOURCE_UNSET...

> Alan

WBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-04 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-30 16:52 pata_sl82c105 can not reserve IO region Olaf Hering
2006-11-30 17:10 ` Alan
2006-11-30 18:47   ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-01 18:34     ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-01 18:58       ` Alan
2006-12-01 19:05       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-01 19:05         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-01 21:53         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-01 21:53           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-01 22:15           ` Alan
2006-12-01 22:15             ` Alan
2006-12-01 22:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-01 22:19               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-02 14:36               ` U-Boot allocating PCI I/O space from 0 (Was: pata_sl82c105 can not reserve IO region) Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-02 16:33                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-26 20:53                   ` [U-Boot-Users] " Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-03 23:39               ` pata_sl82c105 can not reserve IO region Alan
2006-12-03 23:39                 ` Alan
2006-12-03 17:12 ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-03 22:24   ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-03 23:23     ` Alan
2006-12-04  0:30       ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-04  9:21         ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-03 23:07   ` Alan
2006-12-04 12:38 ` [PATCH] mark PCI resource with start 0 as unassigned Olaf Hering
2006-12-04 12:44   ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 12:50     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 12:50       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 12:54       ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 12:54         ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 13:08         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 13:08           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 13:21           ` Alan
2006-12-04 13:25             ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 13:25               ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 14:15               ` Alan
2007-08-01 14:22               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 14:22                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 15:51                 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-01 15:51                   ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 18:04                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 18:04                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 19:52                     ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 19:52                       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 22:14                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-08-06 22:14                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-04 13:27             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 13:27               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 14:22               ` What is the correct way to indicate an unassigned PCI resource ? Alan
2006-12-04 14:34                 ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2006-12-04 14:34                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 14:44                   ` Alan
2006-12-04 15:40                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 15:40                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 15:55                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 15:55                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 20:53                         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-12-04 20:53                           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-12-05  4:43                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05  4:43                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05  4:41                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05  4:41                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05  8:15                   ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-05  8:15                     ` Olaf Hering
2006-12-05 20:19                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05 20:19                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05 21:26                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-05 21:26                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-01-04 17:49                       ` Olaf Hering
2007-01-04 21:30                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-05 10:26                           ` Olaf Hering
2007-01-05 10:26                             ` Olaf Hering
2007-01-05 12:05                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-01-05 12:05                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-12-05 10:51                   ` Gabriel Paubert
2006-12-05 10:51                     ` Gabriel Paubert
2006-12-05 12:38                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-05 12:38                       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-05 17:37                       ` Grant Grundler
2006-12-05 17:37                         ` Grant Grundler
2006-12-05 19:22                         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-05 19:22                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 12:56     ` [PATCH] mark PCI resource with start 0 as unassigned Olaf Hering
2006-12-04 13:05       ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-12-04 12:47   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2006-12-04 12:40 ` [PATCH] add delay around sl82c105_reset_engine calls Olaf Hering
2006-12-04 13:02   ` Alan
2006-12-04 13:12     ` Olaf Hering
2007-01-04  6:42     ` Olaf Hering
2007-01-04 10:53       ` Alan

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