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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubreylee@gmail.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>,
	"Henn, erich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:50:36 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45B7561C.9000102@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1169625333.4493.16.camel@taijtu>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 16:49 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:

>>2. Insure rapid turnaround of pages in the cache.

[...]

> The  only maybe valid point would be 2, and I'd like to see if we can't
> solve that differently - a better use-once logic comes to mind.

There must be something I'm missing with that point. The faster
the turnaround of pagecache pages, the *less* efficiently the
pagecache is working (assuming a rapid turnaround means a high
rate of pages brought into, then reclaimed from pagecache).

I can't argue that a smaller pagecache will be subject to a
higher turnaround given the same workload, but I don't know why
that would be a good thing.

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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Aubrey Li <aubreylee@gmail.com>,
	Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Robin Getz <rgetz@blackfin.uclinux.org>,
	"Henn, erich, Michael" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:50:36 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45B7561C.9000102@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1169625333.4493.16.camel@taijtu>

Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 16:49 -0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:

>>2. Insure rapid turnaround of pages in the cache.

[...]

> The  only maybe valid point would be 2, and I'd like to see if we can't
> solve that differently - a better use-once logic comes to mind.

There must be something I'm missing with that point. The faster
the turnaround of pagecache pages, the *less* efficiently the
pagecache is working (assuming a rapid turnaround means a high
rate of pages brought into, then reclaimed from pagecache).

I can't argue that a smaller pagecache will be subject to a
higher turnaround given the same workload, but I don't know why
that would be a good thing.

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.
Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com 

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-24 12:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-24  0:49 [RFC] Limit the size of the pagecache Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  0:49 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  2:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  2:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  3:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  3:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  5:47   ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24  5:47     ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24  3:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24  3:00   ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24  3:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  3:14     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  3:51     ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24  3:51       ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24  4:03       ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24  4:03         ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-26 10:27         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 10:27           ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-24  3:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  3:13   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  4:30   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  4:30     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24  5:15     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  5:15       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  0:32       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  0:32         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  2:41         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  2:41           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  3:12           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  3:12             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  4:28             ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  4:28               ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  5:19               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  5:19                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  5:40                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  5:40                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  6:00                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-25  6:00                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-26 10:29       ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 10:29         ` Andrew Morton
2007-01-26 18:01         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-26 18:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-01-24  7:04 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24  7:04   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24  7:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24  7:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 12:50   ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-01-24 12:50     ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-24 12:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 12:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 14:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 14:58       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 20:06       ` Erik Andersen
2007-01-24 20:06         ` Erik Andersen
2007-01-25  2:40         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  2:40           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  8:07           ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  8:07             ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:22   ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 14:22     ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 14:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-24 14:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-25  2:27       ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-25  2:27         ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-24 12:33 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 12:33   ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-24 14:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-24 14:56     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  4:17     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  4:17       ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  4:45       ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  4:45         ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  5:49         ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  5:49           ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 16:07           ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 16:07             ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25 17:57             ` Balbir Singh
2007-01-25 17:57               ` Balbir Singh
2007-01-25  6:35       ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-25  6:35         ` Aubrey Li
2007-01-25  6:47         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  6:47           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-01-25  7:49         ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  7:49           ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25  4:18 ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-25  4:18   ` Rik van Riel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-01-25  6:42 Al Boldi
2007-01-25  8:24 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 10:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-25 11:23     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-01-25 11:57     ` Al Boldi
2007-01-25 11:57   ` Al Boldi
2007-01-25 18:37     ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
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     [not found] ` <7GLdb-5Uz-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7GRix-7fU-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7GRLZ-7Uy-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-01-25 14:51       ` Bodo Eggert
2007-01-25 14:51         ` Bodo Eggert

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