From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vatsa@in.ibm.com,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, xemul@sw.ru, linux-mm@kvack.org,
menage@google.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:15:01 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D97FAD.9070009@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec7e5c30702190116j26efcba3oe5223584f99ac25a@mail.gmail.com>
Magnus Damm wrote:
> On 2/19/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:20:19 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This patch applies on top of Paul Menage's container patches (V7)
>> posted at
>> >
>> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/12/88
>> >
>> > It implements a controller within the containers framework for limiting
>> > memory usage (RSS usage).
>
>> The key part of this patchset is the reclaim algorithm:
>>
>> Alas, I fear this might have quite bad worst-case behaviour. One small
>> container which is under constant memory pressure will churn the
>> system-wide LRUs like mad, and will consume rather a lot of system time.
>> So it's a point at which container A can deleteriously affect things
>> which
>> are running in other containers, which is exactly what we're supposed to
>> not do.
>
> Nice with a simple memory controller. The downside seems to be that it
> doesn't scale very well when it comes to reclaim, but maybe that just
> comes with being simple. Step by step, and maybe this is a good first
> step?
>
Thanks, I totally agree.
> Ideally I'd like to see unmapped pages handled on a per-container LRU
> with a fallback to the system-wide LRUs. Shared/mapped pages could be
> handled using PTE ageing/unmapping instead of page ageing, but that
> may consume too much resources to be practical.
>
> / magnus
Keeping unmapped pages per container sounds interesting. I am not quite
sure what PTE ageing, will it look it up.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vatsa@in.ibm.com,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, xemul@sw.ru, linux-mm@kvack.org,
menage@google.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:15:01 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D97FAD.9070009@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec7e5c30702190116j26efcba3oe5223584f99ac25a@mail.gmail.com>
Magnus Damm wrote:
> On 2/19/07, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:20:19 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This patch applies on top of Paul Menage's container patches (V7)
>> posted at
>> >
>> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/2/12/88
>> >
>> > It implements a controller within the containers framework for limiting
>> > memory usage (RSS usage).
>
>> The key part of this patchset is the reclaim algorithm:
>>
>> Alas, I fear this might have quite bad worst-case behaviour. One small
>> container which is under constant memory pressure will churn the
>> system-wide LRUs like mad, and will consume rather a lot of system time.
>> So it's a point at which container A can deleteriously affect things
>> which
>> are running in other containers, which is exactly what we're supposed to
>> not do.
>
> Nice with a simple memory controller. The downside seems to be that it
> doesn't scale very well when it comes to reclaim, but maybe that just
> comes with being simple. Step by step, and maybe this is a good first
> step?
>
Thanks, I totally agree.
> Ideally I'd like to see unmapped pages handled on a per-container LRU
> with a fallback to the system-wide LRUs. Shared/mapped pages could be
> handled using PTE ageing/unmapping instead of page ageing, but that
> may consume too much resources to be practical.
>
> / magnus
Keeping unmapped pages per container sounds interesting. I am not quite
sure what PTE ageing, will it look it up.
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
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Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-19 6:50 [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control) Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][1/4] RSS controller setup Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 9:18 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:18 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 11:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 19:43 ` Matthew Helsley
2007-02-19 19:43 ` Matthew Helsley
2007-02-19 10:06 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:06 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][2/4] Add RSS accounting and control Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 10:37 ` [ckrm-tech] " Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:37 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:09 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:09 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 12:09 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 12:09 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 14:10 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 14:10 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 16:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 16:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 16:17 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 16:17 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-20 6:40 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-20 6:40 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][3/4] Add reclaim support Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 10:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 9:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-19 9:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-19 10:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][4/4] RSS controller documentation Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:54 ` [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control) Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 9:06 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:06 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 10:24 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:24 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 9:16 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 9:16 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 10:45 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-02-19 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 14:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 14:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:00 ` Balbir Singh
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2007-02-24 14:45 [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control) ( Balbir Singh
2007-02-24 14:45 ` Balbir Singh
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